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 Post subject: Narane's Slightly Better Paper Dumping
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 12:48 am 
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Because of you people not giving much advices and critiques as to getting better,
I've gotten better at drawing at a pace of an amputated tortoise with an anvil strapped on to its back.
That's right, I'm blaming you. Yes, you.
Here's my old thread I made here a long, long time ago.
And here are three of my last deviations.
Compare and realize I haven't gotten any better, except for the cleanliness part.
It's really partly all of your fault, y'know. Stop being moderately nice and start mildly criticizing.

EDIT: Don't be commenting on how spooky the eyes are on the second deviation I listed (and shown below);
I personally like it that way myself.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 1:45 am 
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Well with this one, I'd say that since the face is more human, the eyes shouldn't be so far apart. Eyes that far apart would usually be on the side of the head I would think. Theres some body perspective issues, its a tough pose to do. It looks like you tried to make her torso look bent over, but theres too much torso visible to make it believable. Usually in that kind of pose, you would want to make it a round short shape. Unless you were trying to make her look like she was bent over and leaning to the right, which in that case, the picture would look fine.

I think her arms are a little big (wide) and her left breast (your right) is too big and or lopsided. Her tail looks pretty stiff, and the feet look way too big and chunky. Drawing paws at this angle is difficult too do, but you could try drawing the two middle toes longer, and the two on the side smaller and shorter. Try not to make the toes so tall and round, that gives them a very mascot foot look. (by the way, I'm being so critical because you seem to really want it). Her legs and butt look good, so I would work on her arms, feet, tail, eye's breasts, and her torso so it looks more proper in that perspective.

Before I move on to another picture, I would like to add that your the kind of artist who would improve even without my or anyone elses critques, you are self critiquing, I can see that you don't stay stagnant, and that you try many different poses, perspectives and styles. I'm the same as you, and once I learned up a bit on anatomy, and perspective, I took off really quickly. Our comments could just serve as ego boosters for ya ;) Okay next picture...

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Well unless your style was to go for that thick lined comic look, I would use a 2 pixel brush for inking. The clothes look fine except for a few wrinkles. Boot or leg thing seems like it should be tighter, like if she stood up it would just fall down in a wrinkled pile. I think the wrinkles are a bit odd on the boo and should be more smooth and uniformed. Her mouth is kind of going up into her nose, and while it still looks good, it would however be anatomically odd.

And yes, you have improved.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:06 am 
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Firstly, I kind of avoided using [img] because, well, it seems to eat up the readable parts.
Could people please avoid using'em here, please? :P Not being grumpy or anything, but, still...

FuzzlePup wrote:
It looks like you tried to make her torso look bent over, but theres too much torso visible to make it believable.

Well, seeing how the hands reached to the knees,
I thought the entire torso's height (not seeing which way it's extending)
should be about half the length from a normal standing position.
In the end, without increasing the breast size ( :roll: ) I can't reduce the visibility of the torso.

Which is to say, more of the BACK should be visible that way, then, um...

FuzzlePup wrote:
Her tail looks pretty stiff

I can't ever seem to do anything about it. :?

FuzzlePup wrote:
Try not to make the toes so tall and round, that gives them a very mascot foot look.

I just don't really see how an.... animal leg could be naturally drawn on to a human body.
Doing some sketches, it seems that following your advice makes my feet drawings look more human;
and, still, I can't seem to find a proper middle ground of it all...

FuzzlePup wrote:
I would use a 2 pixel brush for inking.

I used OpenCanvas with pretty big range between smallest and biggest brush size;
adjusting those ranges any smaller makes my lines look like it's been done entirely with Pen Tool in Photoshop. :(

FuzzlePup wrote:
The clothes look fine except for a few wrinkles.

Uh, which parts?

FuzzlePup wrote:
And yes, you have improved.

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got kinda lazy and only looked at one (the couch one) plus the one fuzzle did an img of...

from what I can see the biggest problem you have is anatomy relationships... but a some of this was already commented on... what jumped out at me was you can't really tell where her foot ends on her left foot, usually you could tell because of the abrupt change in direction but the only hint you have in the picture is the toes eventually ending.

another thing I notice is the hands the left hand looks like it is on a flat surface.

overall really good just need to get the anatomy proportions and spatial relationships down and you'll be amazing.

on the couch picture it was really good but I had a hard time telling the difference between the finer details since it was drawn at a distance... but it was really good from what I can see! keep it up!


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casterclass wrote:
another thing I notice is the hands the left hand looks like it is on a flat surface.

That doesn't come to me as a problem; it's just a relaxed hand. It would look flat.

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I had a hard time telling the difference between the finer details since it was drawn at a distance...

What do you mean by "drawn at a distance"?
And, what finer details? :? Being the first time ever using markers,
I specifically avoided using finer details.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:00 pm 
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Bumping, in this case, is okay, right?

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Going back to coloured pencils again;
I'm looking mainly for critiques on the colouring,
not the anatomy, though just about anything will be still appreciated.
As far I can see, there are no major problems,
but I'll bet you could find it.


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