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 Post subject: Raine's history
PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 1:41 pm 
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There are some gaps in Raine's history.

4 years ago, Raine's mother was transformed into a kiedran, and the Evil Trace said he would make sure her daughter, Raine, would see her like this.

Ranie's mother was posessed by Neutral at some point, "In exchange for her humanity."

Raine first appears in the strip "Smelling like Kiedran."



Any speculation on what happened during these 4 years?


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 Post subject: Re: Raine's history
PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:13 pm 
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kaid wrote:
There are some gaps in Raine's history.

4 years ago, Raine's mother was transformed into a kiedran, and the Evil Trace said he would make sure her daughter, Raine, would see her like this.

Ranie's mother was posessed by Neutral at some point, "In exchange for her humanity."

Raine first appears in the strip "Smelling like Kiedran."



Any speculation on what happened during these 4 years?


Best not to Speculate so i dont have to tell people how wrong they are :roll:


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:16 pm 
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Ah! but if we confirm that everything we speculate is false, then whatever remains.. THAT must be the truth!


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kaid wrote:
Ah! but if we confirm that everything we speculate is false, then whatever remains.. THAT must be the truth!


Or its stupidity-- but yeah sure :P -- Anywho Raine is a lesbian-- she loves Karen...


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Anywho Raine is a lesbian...

Oh, really... what was she doing with her mother that got her smell all over her? :wink:


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kaid wrote:
Sage wrote:
Anywho Raine is a lesbian...

Oh, really... what was she doing with her mother that got her smell all over her? :wink:

Incest is wrong you sicko! :shock:


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Raine was a keidran shortly before running into Karen.


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Raine was a keidran shortly before running into Karen.


Possible, but she was (presumably) human 4 years ago, and she's human now. What transformed her, and what transformed her back?

All inuendo aside, I do think she spent those 4 years with her then-kiedran mother, playing the master when needed, just as Trace has been doing with Flora.

When Neutral transformed her mother back, Raine was terrified, and ran into Karen and her groop.


There are a few problems with Neutral's presence in the timeline, but I think they can be worked out...


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kaid wrote:

Possible, but she was (presumably) human 4 years ago, and she's human now. What transformed her, and what transformed her back?


What transformed her: Traces magic or the towes.

What changed her back: Getting far enough away from the towers

Why she didn't turn back when she returned: Im still working that part out.


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http://twokinds.comicgenesis.com/d/20040310.html

Panel 3

The person Trace transformed was Raine's MOTHER.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:03 am 
As far as we have been told, Raine was never transformed. We don't know if she ever saw or found her mother prior to her submission to neutral. She said that she was captured by Keidran but we don't know if that was true or not. We could speculate that she maintained her relationship with her mother (and thereby picking up a Keidran scent), after she was transformed. She could have been running from or after neutral that was controlling her mother. But that’s just an inventive theory.


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Hey, just because Rain's in love with Karin doesn't necesarily make her a lesbian. Ain't you ever heard of a "girl crush?" :P

Nya, personally, I think it's the same thing >.<


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yojimbo wrote:
Hey, just because Rain's in love with Karin doesn't necesarily make her a lesbian. Ain't you ever heard of a "girl crush?" :P

Nya, personally, I think it's the same thing >.<


maybe the door swings both ways :wink:


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...actually, I take it back.

There's no real evidence, but the subtext of This Comic and This one strongly implies Raine was in a Kiedran form up to moments before running out of the bushes. Between the way she looked at her hand in suprise ("What? my..."), and the way she said "I was a slave to some.... uh... Kiedran," (When we KNOW Humans keep Kiedrans slaved, but accorging to Flora's Fiance, Kiedrans just kill humans...) it all adds up.

Trace transformed her mother into a Kiedran, and promised to make sure Raine saw her like that... the best explanation I can think of is that Trace hunted Raine down, transformed her too, and sent them off to be sold off, seeing each other one last time before being sold to different people. It seems like the kind of thing Evil Trace would have done.

(Possibly the one spell affected them both, so when Neutral, ah, neutralized the spell to give the former Templar Guildmaster her humanity back, Raine transformed back as well)


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>_< Nuts, I was just about to say... something like that... <_< >_> but yeah, I agree.


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