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Hmm, I agree with you in principle Av but I have a question.

It seems to me that Laura will have a hard time proving her worthiness in this chapter. I understand the principle of her redemption but I don't think it is very possible in this particular case, I'd be more worried about a noble death from one of the other characters. Laura isn't exactly "in the thick of it" and if anyone where to risk their neck saving the group it would be Alaric (and in all honesty I'd rather he prove he isn't a bad guy than have Laura prove she's moved beyond her emotional weaknesses). Laura is an outsider to the society thus they don't trust her with anything, she isn't physically impressive (really the opposite). Personally I think what is more likely is she see's a sacrifice of one of the other characters and is inspired... and this comes into play later in the story but that's just a thought. (I mean she doesn't really have any reason to act heroically other than she is closer to keith than she has been... and I doubt she knows whats going on, so I don't think she has changed much.... yet)

If you were forced to speculate where do you think Laura's heroic actions come into play? I'm interested to hear your theory. :)

I never wish I was more like Keith. Never. As far as I'm concerned, Laura's better than Keith. She's trying to fix her mistake; she's better because of it. Keith is not only making that same mistake, but worse, with Natani. Keith should know what it's like to have one's heat broken, but he's done it to Natani, and he's trying to kill her to boot. Laura buckled under the pressure of her community, and Keith is doing the same under the pressure of his.

Personally, I would like Laura to survive; perhaps she could live out the rest of her days living with Eric and Kathrin somewhat happily. She's already paid for her mistake many times over, especially since I don't think Keith really deserves Laura. At least not any more. Killing Laura would be sad. Like 'Black Hawk Down' sad. She certainly shouldn't die for no reason.

Personally, I agree -- I'd rather see Alaric show he's not evil, though I'd also prefer he stays alive. I rather suspect she'll stick around as a comedic device for a time, until she's a strong enough character to leave on her own, something like I mentioned on the second page. But if pressed for a time for her to be a hero, I think it won't be a conscious decision. She'll just happen to be in the right place and the right time, and act. It won't be combat; she'll probably push Keith out of the way of something. Or, in an enormous twist of irony, Natani, though even I'd be hard pressed to explain how that would come to be. It'll be a time when she could just as easily run away and hide... My instincts say it would have to be Keith's trial, or in the escape to the ship afterward. ...Yes. She'll be told to go to the ship, to run, and instead she hesitates, just long enough to see a thrown short spear. She interposes herself to protect Keith or Natani. Natani drags her back to the docks, with Keith fighting the whole way to keep the Basitins off them. When they reach the dock, Laura knows she's fading fast and won't make it, so Natani goes to fend off the soldiers while Laura dies in Keith's arms. That would be a worthy death for Laura, though it perhaps is not a likely one.

I need to go back and refresh myself on her personality to get more accurate about the speculation than that.

Sable, you're an odd exception. You've been calling for Keith's death for months. And before you get too far comparing Keith and Laura, remember that for Keith, it's as emotionally painful for him as it is for Natani, but he doesn't even know that Natani loves him. She's certainly never told him so. Keith's recent internal monologue raises question as to whether he even knows he's breaking Natani's heart. We know that Keith and Laura exchanged those words. They were much further along in their romance when Laura broke his heart. She did it, knowing what she meant to Keith.

If Keith hasn't figured it out yet, then he should at the very least be castrated. For the good of Basitin society. Intelligence is highly genetic, and it would be in the best interest of future generations if Keith were not allowed to procreate.

Also, I'm sure Laura was in emotional pain as well way back when.

Anyhow, I vote for the castration of Keith, who is too dumb to be allowed to procreate. I mean, when your choice is between someone like Natani (granted, she could do with a little less boobage), and a bunch of snooty pricks who exiled you, then when you returned with the condition to do so fulfilled, they order you to betray your friends, including said person like Natani, then what you should choose is obvious, but Keith managed to get it wrong somehow. ∑:∂≤

Yeah, no. There's no need to repeat yourself on the whole 'programmed to follow orders' stuff. I have read it, multiple times, but I choose to ignore it in favor of saying that Keith shouldn't be allowed to reproduce. It never gets old. Castrate Keith. Nope. Doesn't get old at all.

I blame the aleteration.


I don't think Laura's going to die anytime soon. Maybe later... well definetly later, she's only got a few more years left in her, but I really don't see a need to kill her off.

Unless you want violence for the sake of violence... in which case there are plenty of nameless Bastins around... :roll:

I think you mean aliteration, Mechase. :)

I honestly don't think laura will be killed. Now, she might commit suicide, but that's different. (Die in atonement/grief for Keith?)

Im sure, if sure about anything, that Laura would be the least likely to Kill herself, after all she was strong enough to wait for Keith until he returned. In fact if she was to kill herself it would bring more of a burden on Keith, and im sure she would have thought of this. However, if by some act of fate Keith and the gang were to jump on the ship and leave Laura behind, she would be most heartbroken (;_;) . And from there one can only imagine what depression can bring......

P.S.: We seem to sell Laura soo short.

Well to be fair, Laura hasn't given us much to work with. Sure she came looking for keith, but she also happens to have left him when they were to be wed. So in the best case scenario she breaks even on the slack-o-meter.

I could see herself taking an arrow or a spear to save one of the party members. (given her rather low physical prowess and her lack of involvement in basitin society I think it is about all she could do) At this point anything she does will burden Keith. If she dies it will leave a poisonous cocktail of unresolved emotions. If she stays it will only feed the tension between the "love triangle". If she leaves again, it will only reaffirm what she did before to our favorite basitin exile. I don't know what I'd do in her situation, probably to an arrow for the person I loved and hope that it shows them that I really do/did care. *shrug* Hate to be in that kind of position.

Laura tried to steal Keith away from Alaric, like the selfish tart she is.

She will DIE.

She did interrupt their private artistic rendezvous. :grin:

They really should have worded the poll more carefully. I mean we all think what might happen to Laura, not know "Should Laura survive the chapter?" However, if so then id be shocked to see how many people would want her Dead. Its very sadening, especially when I really like Laura. :oops:

She's not real... don't worry about it, :)

Yea, I know But it would be pretty cooool

Oh, sure, ruin all of my hopes and dreams... :P