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Which character do you like so far?
Natheren 36%  36%  [ 8 ]
Alfrada 9%  9%  [ 2 ]
Siege 22%  22%  [ 5 ]
Lurith 4%  4%  [ 1 ]
Reeves 18%  18%  [ 4 ]
Lloyd 4%  4%  [ 1 ]
Hedglear 4%  4%  [ 1 ]
Not any of them 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
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[quote="Sithil"]I personally like Natheren the best. Partly because he reminds me strongly of Cloud Strife in the way that he looks so moody, and partly because his title is, "the merciless." That alone sounds intruiging enough. Any chance of getting an explanation to that part?quote]

Oh yeah he is definity moody and has real emotinal/mental issues to boot. He was nicknamed Natheren The Merciless partly becouse of how he acts toward others and how brutal he is in combat. He's very cold, harsh, and shows very little sympathy. In battle Natheren never hessates to kill his enemies no matter who or what they are. To him death is something that people should embrass and accept. A quick death is proberbly the only thing that would be conciderd an act of mercy from him. Now if its someone he really dispises he makes sure to make their suffering last as long as it can. And the fact that he pretty much hates all of humanity dosen't help either. I like to think of him as something kinda like The Punisher since he'd gladly punish others as he sees fit.


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I personally like Natheren the best. Partly because he reminds me strongly of Cloud Strife in the way that he looks so moody, and partly because his title is, "the merciless." That alone sounds intruiging enough. Any chance of getting an explanation to that part?


Oh yeah he is definity moody and has real emotinal/mental issues to boot. He was nicknamed Natheren The Merciless partly becouse of how he acts toward others and how brutal he is in combat. He's very cold, harsh, and shows very little sympathy. In battle Natheren never hessates to kill his enemies no matter who or what they are. To him death is something that people should embrass and accept. A quick death is proberbly the only thing that would be conciderd an act of mercy from him. Now if its someone he really dispises he makes sure to make their suffering last as long as it can. And the fact that he pretty much hates all of humanity dosen't help either. I like to think of him as something kinda like The Punisher since he'd gladly punish others as he sees fit.
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Sounds like a "hero" in my taste. Minus the hates all of humanity part. But I'm not one to nag about details, I hate their guts.
He seems to have the right view on death. But, what about him? Does he exept death for himself in that way? Is he comfortable with the fact that he is mortal? Or is he the kind of guy who desperately strives towards immortality?


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I like Alfrada BECAUSE she has the unrealistic body, it's a real boon to me!

Then again I'm a bit of a perv and don't tend to share the "there is such a thing as boobs too big" mentality, so you should ignore me :P


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I personally like Natheren the best. Partly because he reminds me strongly of Cloud Strife in the way that he looks so moody, and partly because his title is, "the merciless." That alone sounds intruiging enough. Any chance of getting an explanation to that part?


Oh yeah he is definity moody and has real emotinal/mental issues to boot. He was nicknamed Natheren The Merciless partly becouse of how he acts toward others and how brutal he is in combat. He's very cold, harsh, and shows very little sympathy. In battle Natheren never hessates to kill his enemies no matter who or what they are. To him death is something that people should embrass and accept. A quick death is proberbly the only thing that would be conciderd an act of mercy from him. Now if its someone he really dispises he makes sure to make their suffering last as long as it can. And the fact that he pretty much hates all of humanity dosen't help either. I like to think of him as something kinda like The Punisher since he'd gladly punish others as he sees fit.
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Sounds like a "hero" in my taste. Minus the hates all of humanity part. But I'm not one to nag about details, I hate their guts.
He seems to have the right view on death. But, what about him? Does he exept death for himself in that way? Is he comfortable with the fact that he is mortal? Or is he the kind of guy who desperately strives towards immortality?


Well let me answer that by ask you this, what if one day everything you can possibly imagine goes wrong in your life and I'm not talking about small insinificate things I mean everything. Friends family, lover, anyone who ever mattered to you just one day horrifically betray you in the outmost crule way imaginable, you lose everything and everyone that mattered. Your whole world is just shatterd and you've figurtivly fallen off the cliff. Your on the verg of death and all you can feel is the pain and anger of it all, you'd proberbly would rather die but what if death never came?

Natheren would gladly accpet his own death and some what desieres it cus he has nothing to look forward to nor nothing he really cares about. Against his wishes he was spaired from death and made into a GEO (Genetically Enhanced/Enginerred Organism) and is incapable of dying by normal means. He's not immortal but he's pretty close to it. Now how would someone in that situation handel it? Would you try your ultmost to get your self killed or camit suicide somehow?

Well though he is rackless and get blasted to bits time to time he would never porposely get himself killed or take his own life simply becouse of pride. He hates the idea of being pityyed by others or looked down on. So hes stuck with a very long and possibly infinite life that has no neaning to him anymore. After being burnt by others he nolonger trust anyone let alone feel anything for them. He sees humainty for what he thinks it truely is, filth.

So yeah he rather be dead and looks foward to it.


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I personally like Natheren the best. Partly because he reminds me strongly of Cloud Strife in the way that he looks so moody, and partly because his title is, "the merciless." That alone sounds intruiging enough. Any chance of getting an explanation to that part?


Oh yeah he is definity moody and has real emotinal/mental issues to boot. He was nicknamed Natheren The Merciless partly becouse of how he acts toward others and how brutal he is in combat. He's very cold, harsh, and shows very little sympathy. In battle Natheren never hessates to kill his enemies no matter who or what they are. To him death is something that people should embrass and accept. A quick death is proberbly the only thing that would be conciderd an act of mercy from him. Now if its someone he really dispises he makes sure to make their suffering last as long as it can. And the fact that he pretty much hates all of humanity dosen't help either. I like to think of him as something kinda like The Punisher since he'd gladly punish others as he sees fit.
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Sounds like a "hero" in my taste. Minus the hates all of humanity part. But I'm not one to nag about details, I hate their guts.
He seems to have the right view on death. But, what about him? Does he exept death for himself in that way? Is he comfortable with the fact that he is mortal? Or is he the kind of guy who desperately strives towards immortality?


Well let me answer that by ask you this, what if one day everything you can possibly imagine goes wrong in your life and I'm not talking about small insinificate things I mean everything. Friends family, lover, anyone who ever mattered to you just one day horrifically betray you in the outmost crule way imaginable, you lose everything and everyone that mattered. Your whole world is just shatterd and you've figurtivly fallen off the cliff. Your on the verg of death and all you can feel is the pain and anger of it all, you'd proberbly would rather die but what if death never came?

Natheren would gladly accpet his own death and some what desieres it cus he has nothing to look forward to nor nothing he really cares about. Against his wishes he was spaired from death and made into a GEO (Genetically Enhanced/Enginerred Organism) and is incapable of dying by normal means. He's not immortal but he's pretty close to it. Now how would someone in that situation handel it? Would you try your ultmost to get your self killed or camit suicide somehow?

Well though he is rackless and get blasted to bits time to time he would never porposely get himself killed or take his own life simply becouse of pride. He hates the idea of being pityyed by others or looked down on. So hes stuck with a very long and possibly infinite life that has no neaning to him anymore. After being burnt by others he nolonger trust anyone let alone feel anything for them. He sees humainty for what he thinks it truely is, filth.

So yeah he rather be dead and looks foward to it.


I see... Oh yes. Definately a hero in my taste. I am looking forwards to reeding this story of your's, once it's ready. I don't give a damn about the other characters right now really, that guy alone has me hooked. Very good sir. I salute your creativity and skills in art, and I applaud you.


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I personally like Natheren the best. Partly because he reminds me strongly of Cloud Strife in the way that he looks so moody, and partly because his title is, "the merciless." That alone sounds intruiging enough. Any chance of getting an explanation to that part?


Oh yeah he is definity moody and has real emotinal/mental issues to boot. He was nicknamed Natheren The Merciless partly becouse of how he acts toward others and how brutal he is in combat. He's very cold, harsh, and shows very little sympathy. In battle Natheren never hessates to kill his enemies no matter who or what they are. To him death is something that people should embrass and accept. A quick death is proberbly the only thing that would be conciderd an act of mercy from him. Now if its someone he really dispises he makes sure to make their suffering last as long as it can. And the fact that he pretty much hates all of humanity dosen't help either. I like to think of him as something kinda like The Punisher since he'd gladly punish others as he sees fit.
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Sounds like a "hero" in my taste. Minus the hates all of humanity part. But I'm not one to nag about details, I hate their guts.
He seems to have the right view on death. But, what about him? Does he exept death for himself in that way? Is he comfortable with the fact that he is mortal? Or is he the kind of guy who desperately strives towards immortality?


Well let me answer that by ask you this, what if one day everything you can possibly imagine goes wrong in your life and I'm not talking about small insinificate things I mean everything. Friends family, lover, anyone who ever mattered to you just one day horrifically betray you in the outmost crule way imaginable, you lose everything and everyone that mattered. Your whole world is just shatterd and you've figurtivly fallen off the cliff. Your on the verg of death and all you can feel is the pain and anger of it all, you'd proberbly would rather die but what if death never came?

Natheren would gladly accpet his own death and some what desieres it cus he has nothing to look forward to nor nothing he really cares about. Against his wishes he was spaired from death and made into a GEO (Genetically Enhanced/Enginerred Organism) and is incapable of dying by normal means. He's not immortal but he's pretty close to it. Now how would someone in that situation handel it? Would you try your ultmost to get your self killed or camit suicide somehow?

Well though he is rackless and get blasted to bits time to time he would never porposely get himself killed or take his own life simply becouse of pride. He hates the idea of being pityyed by others or looked down on. So hes stuck with a very long and possibly infinite life that has no neaning to him anymore. After being burnt by others he nolonger trust anyone let alone feel anything for them. He sees humainty for what he thinks it truely is, filth.

So yeah he rather be dead and looks foward to it.


I see... Oh yes. Definately a hero in my taste. I am looking forwards to reeding this story of your's, once it's ready. I don't give a damn about the other characters right now really, that guy alone has me hooked. Very good sir. I salute your creativity and skills in art, and I applaud you.


Wow well that nice comment made my day right there =) Thanks

Well the other characters will be sure to chatch your interest as you get to know them better. Hopefully anyways. Alfrada though a busty bimbo will actually have as much depthness to her character and won't be like some of the annoying happy go lucky female characters I've seen *cough Misa cough Tabby cough* Shes got her own issuse to deal with to just like all the others. She just takes a differnt more positive outlook on things. (Before you ask she not a GEO but a Demi halfling)

Well I've deffintily got quiet the story planed out in my head but getting it out is gonna be like pulling teeth. Though alot have kindly complemeted my skills as an artist, I'm nowhere near where I should be in my perspective and making a comic will be very time concumming and time is something I'm usually lacking. And I'm no writter either my grammer and spelling is awful. So its gonna be a challenge for sure, but nothing worth while is ever easy is it? I'm gonna have some kinda comic done eventually but I think I should type out the story in a script like manner for the time being and just try to have nice pictuer drawn for it =P This is pretty much the reason I'm really wanting to get a copy of Rpgmaker xp cus I'm more of a visualist then dealing with words & structure and Noricragma would make a tight rpg.

I dunno if I could call Natheren a hero though Oo; Siege fits that more so then him (at the beginning that is anyway, people do change after all) but Natheren isn't really a villain either as he does have a sense of honor and justice about him ( though his justice means he who dose wrong gets punished by 10 folds by what they did.) Good and bad is a matter of prospeactive so there won't be a defined protogist or anatganist in Noricragma. Its all up to the the viewer and who's side they ultimately pick.


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I think Natheren falls undeer the 'Anti-Hero' tag. THe hero of the story who isn't a clear cut good guy, like Riddick in Pitch Black


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Well from what I have seen so far, I can only say that i have faith in you. This sounds like a concept for an incredible story, one that deserves to be told. So hang in there, and atleast try. Very, very much.
And dear God, don't be so harsh on yourself when it comes to art. You are incredible by my standards.
And Natharen might not be a hero by the normal standards, but the good heroes never are to begin with, are they?


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Oh I have no intionions on giving up on my little story, one way or another it will be told. And yeah like Nuff said he's pretty much the antihero. I never did like the gaulent knight on the white horse motife anyway. (expeacilly when people have sterotype me as that, I'm far from he goody good type)If there ever was anyone like that in society they wouldn't last. Siege tries to be the hero be he's ultimatly human and dose make mistakes and bing a hero is never easy and you have to put aside alot of your feelings in order to do the right thing.

Siege and Natheren do have alot of simularites but at the same time they'er polar opposites. They both belive they are doing whats right. Kinda in away like L and Light from Death Note. Though like I mention Siege eventaully changes for better or worse.


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Oh I have no intionions on giving up on my little story, one way or another it will be told. And yeah like Nuff said he's pretty much the antihero. I never did like the gaulent knight on the white horse motife anyway. (expeacilly when people have sterotype me as that, I'm far from he goody good type)If there ever was anyone like that in society they wouldn't last. Siege tries to be the hero be he's ultimatly human and dose make mistakes and bing a hero is never easy and you have to put aside alot of your feelings in order to do the right thing.


I agree fullheartedly. I have allways prefered the villains, exept for when I was very young ofcourse. And if you ever make your way to the Roleplaying board, you can pretty much check up on the Secret War thread if you want proof. Christian is pretty much my personal version of your Natheren. He is the beloved creation of my mind, and I love him.

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Siege and Natheren do have alot of simularites but at the same time they'er polar opposites. They both belive they are doing whats right. Kinda in away like L and Light from Death Note. Though like I mention Siege eventaully changes for better or worse.


Death Note comparison? Epic win. That's all I can say. And it certainly helps to explain it to me. And it is pretty obvious to me wich character represents wich. Wich is perfect, as I allways cheered for Kira as well.


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Death Note comparison? Epic win. That's all I can say. And it certainly helps to explain it to me. And it is pretty obvious to me wich character represents wich. Wich is perfect, as I allways cheered for Kira as well.


Except Natheren need not hide from society =P they all know who he is and what he's capable of. Not many people mess with him both in his world and Siege's. Natheren is from a more futuristic (Ierra) world while most of the story is fantasy like wrold (Gaia). And Siege dosen't have a bad of sweet tooth as L and not nearlyas smart either. Natheren is way more cleaver and sneekier then Siege. But Siege will evetually become a formable foe to him later on.

But yeah you've got the basic idea there. There alot of stuff that'll be going on plot wise and even more twist and turns. However some of the things I'm gonna do with the story may upset and even confuse some people but the story is mainly for me xD I rather not give out the deatails on those things in general but I won't mind answering any other thing people may want to know on the characters.


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Death Note comparison? Epic win. That's all I can say. And it certainly helps to explain it to me. And it is pretty obvious to me wich character represents wich. Wich is perfect, as I allways cheered for Kira as well.


Except Natheren need not hide from society =P they all know who he is and what he's capable of. Not many people mess with him both in his world and Siege's. Natheren is from a more futuristic (Ierra) world while most of the story is fantasy like wrold (Gaia). And Siege dosen't have a bad of sweet tooth as L and not nearlyas smart either. Natheren is way more cleaver and sneekier then Siege. But Siege will evetually become a formable foe to him later on.

But yeah you've got the basic idea there. There alot of stuff that'll be going on plot wise and even more twist and turns. However some of the things I'm gonna do with the story may upset and even confuse some people but the story is mainly for me xD I rather not give out the deatails on those things in general but I won't mind answering any other thing people may want to know on the characters.


This creates more questions than it gives answers. But I'm not the kind of guy who likes spoilers, so I'll just be quiet for now.

But, I'd like to ask a little about Headglear on the other hand. How does he fit into all of this? What is his part in the plot? Is he on either Natheren or Siege's side, or is he more of a neutral character? I ask as he is the guy who looks the second most intresting.


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Death Note comparison? Epic win. That's all I can say. And it certainly helps to explain it to me. And it is pretty obvious to me wich character represents wich. Wich is perfect, as I allways cheered for Kira as well.


Except Natheren need not hide from society =P they all know who he is and what he's capable of. Not many people mess with him both in his world and Siege's. Natheren is from a more futuristic (Ierra) world while most of the story is fantasy like wrold (Gaia). And Siege dosen't have a bad of sweet tooth as L and not nearlyas smart either. Natheren is way more cleaver and sneekier then Siege. But Siege will evetually become a formable foe to him later on.

But yeah you've got the basic idea there. There alot of stuff that'll be going on plot wise and even more twist and turns. However some of the things I'm gonna do with the story may upset and even confuse some people but the story is mainly for me xD I rather not give out the deatails on those things in general but I won't mind answering any other thing people may want to know on the characters.


This creates more questions than it gives answers. But I'm not the kind of guy who likes spoilers, so I'll just be quiet for now.

But, I'd like to ask a little about Headglear on the other hand. How does he fit into all of this? What is his part in the plot? Is he on either Natheren or Siege's side, or is he more of a neutral character? I ask as he is the guy who looks the second most intresting.


Hedglear is kinda like Alfrada's adoptive uncle, after her village and parents were killed off in a fire he took her under his wing while she was stll very young. He was mostly a friend of her father who fell in love with a female demi. Demis are baisly anything that isn't human, anthro, goblin, elf, ect and well humans are pretty much like they are in 2kinds. He supported her father and helped them found the village that they settled down in..until it got burnt down of course.

He watched after her and pretty much trained her on how to survive in the wild, since he's kinda like a ranger. After a few years they seprated and he started traveling around the world.

Later on its revealed that he actually has a wife and son but due to certain events he had to leave them behind many years ago. He know longer knows where they are located and attempts to find them again.

He is more or less on Sieges side but Hedglear and Natheren have crossed paths a few times in the past and on a few occasions battled togather though Natheren just write him off as an annoying old fool and rather not listen to his lecuters. And later on while Hedglear is with Siege's party Natheren avoids him even more so as not to deal with Alfrada who's usually around with'em. Natheren can't stand her at all, she gets on his nevers by how she's always being flirty around him and Siege and how she always whins when he insults her. Not to mention she's very nosey. If it weren't for her strength and skill she'd been dead already proberbly lol. Hedglear is also unnaturally strong for a normal human. but I'll leave it at that.


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Flora and siege are my favorites. Siege...he seems like the kind of person who would be the protagonist, if you weren't going for an antihero instead. He looks kinda like someone who wants everything to work out okay, and destests violence.

Flora has bat-wings. That is enough for me.


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Flora and siege are my favorites. Siege...he seems like the kind of person who would be the protagonist, if you weren't going for an antihero instead. He looks kinda like someone who wants everything to work out okay, and destests violence.

Flora has bat-wings. That is enough for me.


Yep you pretty much hit it on Siege, and he has trouble accpeting that sometimes shi- happens and has a hard time dealing with that.

Lurith and Siege are a love interest but theres even more to it then they both realise and I can't say any more on that topic without spoiling something. Shes got bat wings because shes actually a demon, even has the little tail to. Demons in my story aren't your typical demons. Nothing to deal with the underwolrd or what not. Demons are beings who use a certain type of magic thats extermly dangers to use and only thier race is capable of it. Thouhg the race was thought to have been extinct long ago, Siege found her locked up in some ruins he was exploring with no memoeries of her past or name. He later names her Flora because of her fashination with flowers.


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