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not literate, but very pornographic.

Which begs another question. Is he made fun of by his brother for keidran...naughty things?

Actually, Flora can read. She just can't read Human. She can read Keidran just fine. I can't read Japanese. That doesn't mean I can't read, however. :P

I'm not terribly surprised when people can't speak Basitin. The Basitins live on a little set of islands far away and keep to themselves. A good number of the Humans believe that the Basitins all died off, so even if you could find someone to teach you Basitin, why learn a dead language? Though it's the first part -- finding a teacher -- that would be difficult.

Sithil, you're right about Kathrin -- she admits that she's not very good at reading, so she mostly likes to look at those books because they have a lot of pictures. ;)

Ah, a confirmation from avwolf! That settes it then. However, if those books were the only things I had to chose from I would have decided not to learn to read at all. Poor Kathrin. I hope Flora or Trace finds her some real literature to train with.

Also, Kat has back problems.

xD

Keidrans dont live long enough to have the back problems from being heavy on the front! :P

Gah. Too used to ignoring the little <>'s and the []'s on the words. And too used to Flora talking in human, I forgot about the Keidran language. So. Yep. You and Sithil are entirely correct.

I wonder if they have shops in the TwoKinds world that sell brackets and carots?

Keidran: "Kneip ol maos g'nirow valekdemus furqar!"
Human: Here, hold these carots above your head.
Keidran: <Like this?>
Human: Perfect.

Well Flora shouldn't being you know, a pet (let's face it, we all know why she was really threated so well, she was a house cat)
and let's not get into how all the three races have only three languages shall we (humans alone should have at least six)

Well most people will get annoyed wend Sci-fi gets the facts wroung (ei 'space is cold') Fantasy isn't any different, magic NEEDS rules or else will become a Deus Ex Machina, armour should at least be realistic enough to look like it can be used in a battle (Chain mail, 'soft armour' plate armour all design for the used to desprist it's weight so the user can wear 80 pounds wought without being slow or if fell down can get back up {fun fact: US Marines wear over 150 pounds of gear}) is that so much to ask?
plus right now... nothing pisses me off more than "It's Magic we don't have to explaine it"

so yeah

While I agree that magic should have rules, we are only one school of thought in Fantasy, and the other school of thought is that magic does what it needs to do to solve the situation at hand -- magic in that conception really does tend to run as deus ex machina. Like you, I don't care for that concept of magic as much, but it's a very popular one in Fantasy. Look at Harry Potter, for instance, for an example of "magic that just does stuff."

Again, it's fantasy -- a common fantasy trope is that each race speaks one, or maybe two languages or dialects, and really no more. And it's a common trope in fantasy and sci fi for everyone to speak a "common" language. TwoKinds is notable because there isn't some sort of trade argot all of the races use.

We only know bits and pieces of Flora's history. We know it wasn't permitted for Keidran slave to learn to read Human, but we don't know if the slaves teach each other to read their own language, unbeknownst to their masters (which is at least reasonably likely). We also don't know much about Flora's time outside of slavery, but she's apparently very well bred and considered valuable enough to the Tigers for her to work in an alliance by marriage, so it's also reasonable to assume she has some education outside of her slavery.

Yep thus why I said House Pet. Plus Like I said befor Humans are a Feudal society (meaning that there are most liky mutiply nations and most Keidran don't know/care) meaning that Kings own the land give it to lesser nobles who give it to knights to give it to peons who work the land for protection, and pay the nobles rent money which is uselly most of their money making them basily slaves so the humans DON'T need Keidrans for labor plus peasents wouldn't be abile to feed them since meat is too expensive, so only Nobles have them for well as pets. It works

Also every heard of "One More Day"?

However, we haven't seen evidence of that. In fact, there is only a single demonstrable Human kingdom. We've seen very little evidence of a generalized feudal system -- in fact, if it resembles feudal Europe at all, it is the tail end of the feudal era, when the creation of towns and a middle class effectively caused the feudal system to collapse. I can't think of any evidence that we have share-cropping peasants, and the presence of a strong merchant class, along with semi-independent towns rather than fiefs also argues against a feudal outlook. It's quite possible that only the wealthy have Keidran slaves, but that's hardly surprising. However, Keidran slaves seem very common, so I wouldn't say it takes extreme wealth to own one.


I'm afraid it's not familiar.