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 Post subject: Freakin' Artists!- A writer's rant.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:08 pm 
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Alright, let me start off by saying here that this isn't targeting anyone in particular, I just want t o express my annoyance with my way of being creative and stuff.


What has really been ticking me off lately is my inability to draw. I mean, utter inability if you want something that's not a stick figure. Instead, I've started writing instead, steaming from my love of literature in general, and according to many people, I've got some skill in it. I enjoy it, and I like what I come up with, but I can't do what artists can do.

Namely, making something pretty. With artists, people can look at something for 10 seconds and say, that's pretty, that looks good, where as what I can generate takes a much greater amount of time to appreciate, and I can't take a page I intend to do something else with and making it beautiful. So this ends up messing with making it impossible for me to do [censored] like that in school.

One thing that really jams my canolie is comics. Comics in general really tweak my arm in that it can be funny in 30 seconds flat, and a written comedy takes so much more time to read and create.


So yeah, that was my half sensible rant.

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Writing is great to tell longer stories. It's not true that you cannot create something beautiful, because if you're good, you have the ability to electrify your readers (no, not the super power you silly man). While artists can create pretty things to entertain people, it is a shorter enjoyment and will probably be forgotten sooner than a book or a short story you enjoyed.

As a writer you have the potential to create whole worlds, and with words you can portrait a lot more at the same time than with a picture. You can write an epic tale and overwhelm your readers so much that they actually wished they lived in the universe you created (I'm talking about stuff like LotR here). You can play with the emotions of the people much more than a regular artist can.

-GD out-


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GD wrote:
if you're good, you have the ability to electrify your readers (no, not the super power you silly man).


"Huh, this book looks pretty good. I wonder what its abo- AAAAHAUGHOHMYGOD"

I like to draw and write, however I don't like to sit and write unless I'm supposed to be doing something else, like in school, but I can't stand the feeling that I'm being watched, so I don't. And the same thing goes for drawing, but nothing I draw turns out good. If I try at home I start and the next few minutes goes something like this.
"Hm. No. Thats no good. That's garbage. BAD. Boy, this is sure dull. I'm going to play TF2."


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"A picture is worth a thousand words."

It's simple. You will always be able to convey something with a picture easier than with words. Describing a character will always be easier with art than it will with words, because everyone can see, but not everyone will get the same picture if you don't provide one. Writers that can convey an idea really well will always be better in my mind than an artist. Anyone can draw an apple, but only a few can describe one with words.


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Kilroywuzheere wrote:
Anyone can draw an apple, but only a few can describe one with words.

I can. Apple.


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GD wrote:
Kilroywuzheere wrote:
Anyone can draw an apple, but only a few can describe one with words.

I can. Apple.

You know damn well what I mean! Describe an apple as if the reader don't know what it is.


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Apple = A juicy, yet crunchy simple fruit, with flavor that is sweet, and tart. It 's roundness and bounty is only matched by it's taste.


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Yes, but Kilroy's point is, that doesn't convey the image of an apple nearly on the level an artist can.


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Ahhh.....You're not seriously challenging me to write something for an hour describing an apple?...are you?


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do it :twisted:

waste 1/613200 of your life writing a text wall no one will read all of.


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Yes, but that's going to take at least 5 minutes to read, most likely, where as a drawing, I could point at and go "Apple" and the person would go "Ohhhhh..."


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Kho the Cat-Persun wrote:
Apple = A juicy, yet crunchy simple fruit, with flavor that is sweet, and tart. It 's roundness and bounty is only matched by it's taste.
You didn't describe what it looked like.

Which only proves my point. You have failed to make me picture an apple. Just proves that it's much harder to describe with words, and anyone that can do it well has my respect. And much more of it than most artists ever will.


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I misinterpreted that. I thought you meant "describe without making a picture." Bleh, I'm useless.





Zip it Keldoth.


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Give it up. You're American, and Americans can't draw.


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I know what you mean, man.
But you see, a writer's work takes time. And therefore, because it has taken more time to create, it will be appreciated longer. Which is more popular? Art galleries or libraries? And then there are the callow folk that you were talking about, who see this and say, "well, if I can be popular that fast if I draw, as apposed to writing, then I should start a comic, even though I have no talent to draw." Of course, in my experience, the same goes for writing. Take a look at YiffStar for an example. That is why music is my favorite of the humanities. It takes the most discipline to make a song, and if you don't do it right the first time, people will say to you, "No, do it better," which does happen with drawing, but you get a quicker response with music because it's easier to register data with the ears than the eyes. And while you can 'tell' a story through oratory means, you can't describe a portrait while doing it justice. "Uh, it's a girl... she's sitting... I think... sitting on... a balcony? No, she's by a window. And... she's smiling... no, her boobs aren't showing! Get a grip!"


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