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How would Natani's voice sound like if she was trying to disguise herself as a guy? Dunno if someone already posted something like this...

Good question...

Uhm..."growly"?
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See, it all comes down to how Keidran sound...Which is impossible to read into text. It's possible that vocal inflection in Keidran doesn't change from sex to sex. (Can you tell the sex of a dog by its bark?) But given how much the anatomy shifts for an anthropomorph, I think it's unlikely (and besides, maybe humans just can't hear the inflection, and it's obvious to another dog what the sex of the barking dog is).

I think she pretty much has to be disguising her voice (naturally or magically); after all, women have successfully disguised themselves as men throughout the ages, and I imagine that's how they did it (well, not magically). Trace might not even be able to tell the difference between a male wolf Keidran voice and a female wolf Keidran voice anyway, but you'd expect Flora, who was all setup to marry a wolf Keidran, would have caught on pretty darn quick without something muddying things up. We already know that Natani uses magic to change her scent, but since she doesn't mention her voice in that scene, she probably disguises it herself with nonmagical means. Which leaves open the question -- does she relax and not try to speak in the disguise when she's in private and around Keith?

Based on standard "human" rules, which anthropomorphs would logically follow to an extent, she'd try to speak lower pitched and more gruffly. Though that's all open to interpretation, and I'm just making more or less wild guesses.

as for the magically changing her vioce she already magically covers her scent so it would be too far of a leap to do that as well

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Why too far of a leap? I'm sure it wouldn't be that difficult. After all, you can walk with a limp and talk in a high voice at the same time, Natani doesn't even need to use any of her own abilitys (Save for magic, of course) to do it magicaly.

I think One Strange Cat just missed their negation, since the rest of the sentence context suggests that it should be there.

I thought of another reason I'd suggest that Natani doesn't use magic to disguise her voice if she thinks she can do it without. Magic isn't free for Natani. In pretty much any environment, Trace can tap the magic of the world and the living things around him, making magic more or less "free" for the Templar. The Keidran cannot do this -- they rely on having mana stones, magic stored for use. I'm guessing that this is probably true for the Templar while they're on the ocean too, or the mana stone merchant in the city they sailed from doesn't make any sense. Natani's reserve of mana stones is limited, so without some input on how much magic she can cast with a stone (we know that big spells, like teleport, evidently need a whole stone to power, but we don't know how her enchantments, like her scent disguise or her lock spell, drain the stones). Logically, she'd only use magic when she needs it, because the resource that she has for it is limited. That's why I think she wouldn't disguise her voice magically if she was practiced enough to speak in a close approximation to a male voice.

Lol, equivalent exchange =^_^=

In the Keidran language, there are almost no noticeable differences between female and male voices. Keidran language consists of two dialects: Low Keidran and High Keidran. Low Keidran is spoken with low growls and guttural sounds; it is generally spoken by the medium- to low-class or slaves. High Keidran is spoken with high-pitched inflections, and is spoken by the high-class and higher-educated Keidran communities.

Often, humans who can't tell will mistakenly consider all Keidran speaking High Keidran to be female and all Keidran speaking Low Keidran to be male.

When speaking, Keidran pronounce their genders verbally by including either male or female additives in their speech. In Natani's case, she speaks with a Low Keidran dialect. To sound like a male, she simply has to use "male speech" inflections. She's used this form a speaking for so long, it would actually be difficult and unnatural for her to speak with a female voice at this point.

Hope that answers your question.

Oh, and in case you're wondering: Mike, Evals, and Flora all speak Low Keidran, though Flora knows some High Keidran. Keith speaks both dialects. Euchre speaks High Keidran. Eric usually speaks in High Keidran. Kathrin knows some Low and some High Keidran. Laura speaks exclusively in High Keidran.

Clear, concise, and sensible. Thanks, Tom.

While we're on the topic of things contemplated about Natani (and I'm not necessarily looking for WoG on this, just somebody to give me a math check), it occurred to me that Natani might well be quite a bit younger than Flora.

Assuming Natani's words are accurate here (i.e. not metaphorical), and so Trace is directly or indirectly responsible for the deaths of her parents, that puts Natani's flashbacks at less than four years ago, after Trace goes crazy and becomes Grand Templar. She certainly appears younger than Flora does in this flashback which is more than six years ago (and that includes even a more reliable "mental age," as Tom has repeatedly stated that drawing age parallels between human and Keidran physical development is a near impossibility). That'd leave Natani at certainly no older than nine, and probably closer to seven. Thoughts?

Natani is 14 years old. She blames Trace not because he was directly involved, but because he's the head of the organization responsible for the attack on her tribe. The attack took place 9 years ago, and was orchestrated by the old Grand Templar because that particular tribe was attempting to encroach into human territory. It wasn't without good reason, as the Keidran were wreaking havoc on the local human population.

Thanks, Tom. I've been wondering that for a while. (BTW, it's "wreaking" there. "Reeking" would have them smelling up the joint.) It's a busy day for getting my questions answered directly. :) I appreciate it, keeps me sane.

Man, doesn't it suck getting the hit for someone else's mistakes?

Like I said, Natani speaks Low Keidran = growly!
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What I'm wondering is what keidran sound like when they speak human. The language mechanics are very different, so it might sound different.

So like a girl with a deep voice with pms? lol, j/k *quickly dives into a pms bunker* please dont kill me!!