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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:34 pm 
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I figured this would be the best place to ask for advice...

Anyways, here's the deal, i haven't had a good, long dream in ages, and i've grown tired of that, i want to start dreaming again, but with no luck. I've searched on the net of ways to envoke dreams, etc, and nothing helpful, i've asked friends, nothing, i've tried different "sleep techniques", nothing.

So i thought i might as well ask you guys, do any you know of ways to envoke dreams ?, maybe some techniques or something ?, anything would be helpful i guess

(Also, im not stressed or anything like that, so don't worry about mentioning that)


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i honestly don't believe that it works myself, but i've heard that eating bananas right before you go to bed helps you to have good dreams. (maybe it has something to do with the patasium...) :?


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If I want a dream I simply start envisioning a story while laying there. Sometimes that will drift off into a dream.




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Well another dream-less night gone by, but then again i shouldn't have expected anything to change, Anyways i never heard of the Banana idea, but i guess it wouldn't hurt to try it sometime...

As for the "think of what you want to dream of" idea, that's the most common tech' i've read on the net, and for me it just doesn't work, it actually does the opposite, keeping me up during the night instead of sleeping :?

There has to be some research documents or something on the net that has different ways to envoke dreams, but i haven't found anything...

Any other idea's ?


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Your problem is not that you aren't dreaming, it's that you aren't remembering your dreams. Everyone dreams, most people have 5-10 dreams a night, some say they have had more- some claim to only have one (which is unlikely but possible multiple dreams have been sewn together in a way you think of them as one). Most people only remember one dream, and it is usually the one you wake from.

You don't need to find a way to make yourself dream, you need a way to remember the dreams. Forcing yourself into having Lucid dreams requires that you first remember your dreams, then you create a way to know you are dreaming- and you take control of that dream. If you just want to "dream" you only need the first step. Most people just write down the first things they think of when they wake up. Slowly they will start to piece together a dream, there brain is being told to "remember" in the morning- and as it continues to progress your mind will basically recall deeper and deeper into your dreams- at least as much as it can.

But all people dream even if they dont remember it, if they didn't, they would die (Usually go crazy, then die). Dreams are a vital part of sleep, without them our brains would be all screwed up -- think of it as a screen saver while your computer defrags- if you had no choice but to stare at your computer while it defrags over 8 hours- it would be nice to see pretty pictures instead of the bars and percentage ticking by slowly... A life time of watching defrag for 8 hours every day might cause you to go nuts...


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Well, you always dream something (if you get a proper sleep, anyway), you just don't remember the dreams. It's just a matter of finding a way to remember them. That's my experience with dreams, anyway. The trick is to remind yourself the moment you wake up. You can do this by putting a bunch of post-it stickers with "DREAM!?" written on it on your bed lamp, alarm clock or whatever you are most likely to see or interact with the second you wake up. It's also a good idea to keep a pen and paper right next to you so to write down right away what you can remember. That way it doesn't really matter if you forget the dream, you can just read your notes later that morning. Don't expect much the first nights but the longer you keep doing this, the more you will start to remember. I guess this whole thing takes a bit of practice and discipline, of course, not to hit snooze. I woke up once a few minutes before the alarm clock went off and I had a dream in my head but instead of writing it down I snoozed until the clock rang and by then I couldn't remember anything.

Anyway, the post-it sticker, paper and pen method is what I did and it worked very well. Thing is I kinda lost interest mainly because, well, all the dreams were so random. The dreams were more or less in context but they just didn't make any sense, at all. Who knows though, maybe you have more interesting dreams than me.

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I very rarely ever get a dream that is memorable. It doesn't really help to want to have dreams I've noticed, the ones you actually notice just come at random times. I also think that Sage is right about the multiple dreams sewn together, cause most dreams I do experience usually never make sense when I remember them at all(except the falling off a building dreams lol). I dunno, my best advice would be: don't worry about it. One'll hit ya when you're not really expecting it.


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weird, i am getting the exact opposite problem, to much dream. They are all replays of my life basically, and i got enough of that when i am awake.

I am horribly stressed out, suffer from depression, and hate life. so if you do these things, you to can 'enjoy' dreams.


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Well i've read up on Lucid dreaming, which Sage mentioned and it looks like its worth a shot, i've also read a few ways to remember the dream, from drinking water to the basic "write it down"

I ended up finding this site which answeared a bunch of questions of mine, so i figured i'd try the whole Lucid dreaming thing, hopefully that will be the solution to my dilema (sp?)

I'll let you all know if anything happens tonight, or any other night[/url]


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I wanna bump this, it's only a good 9 days behind anyway

Sage wrote:
Your problem is not that you aren't dreaming, it's that you aren't remembering your dreams. Everyone dreams, most people have 5-10 dreams a night, some say they have had more- some claim to only have one (which is unlikely but possible multiple dreams have been sewn together in a way you think of them as one). Most people only remember one dream, and it is usually the one you wake from.

You don't need to find a way to make yourself dream, you need a way to remember the dreams. Forcing yourself into having Lucid dreams requires that you first remember your dreams, then you create a way to know you are dreaming- and you take control of that dream. If you just want to "dream" you only need the first step. Most people just write down the first things they think of when they wake up. Slowly they will start to piece together a dream, there brain is being told to "remember" in the morning- and as it continues to progress your mind will basically recall deeper and deeper into your dreams- at least as much as it can.

But all people dream even if they dont remember it, if they didn't, they would die (Usually go crazy, then die). Dreams are a vital part of sleep, without them our brains would be all screwed up -- think of it as a screen saver while your computer defrags- if you had no choice but to stare at your computer while it defrags over 8 hours- it would be nice to see pretty pictures instead of the bars and percentage ticking by slowly... A life time of watching defrag for 8 hours every day might cause you to go nuts...


Or you could not dream, but sleeping blankly, but dream and have daydreams(visions, premonitions, etc, I don't really know, they can be that important, dreams I mean) in the day time, my mind works that way, and I've proved it (in a sense)

in other words, I don't really dream at all during the night, if I do, it's probably something really important, but my sub-conscious works in the daytime, mainly through daydreams, or sometimes the dream just pops in my head like a idea of sorts you know ;D

Here's some advice, go to bed, lay down, and make your mind go blank, just black, and don't try to think about anything, and just let your mind wander on it's own, and sooner or later you'll get a dream or just fall asleep, and again, a good thing to do is to write everything down you remember once you get up


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I have a bad feeling that all my dreams are of the kind I'd just as soon forget... Yesterday I had the first dream I can remember in years. It was of me falling apart into sand. It was mildly disturbing. Other dreams I've had and remember were also not of good nature. Except for erm... n/m.

I guess it's my subconscious' way of getting back at me for being disturbed by very little if anything when I'm awake.

That or it could be the years of repressed rage and apathy combined. :twisted: :roll: :lol:


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I remember a dream every now and then. And, on the rare occassion I do remember one, it's something I'd rather not talk about and/or something I'd just as soon wish to forget.

Somni 8)


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I'd rather not talk about and/or something I'd just as soon wish to forget.

Has your family ever hanged you and a sibling / friend in your basement screaming for your death before?

If not, go right ahead.


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I wanna bump this, it's only a good 9 days behind anyway

Sage wrote:
Your problem is not that you aren't dreaming, it's that you aren't remembering your dreams. Everyone dreams, most people have 5-10 dreams a night, some say they have had more- some claim to only have one (which is unlikely but possible multiple dreams have been sewn together in a way you think of them as one). Most people only remember one dream, and it is usually the one you wake from.

You don't need to find a way to make yourself dream, you need a way to remember the dreams. Forcing yourself into having Lucid dreams requires that you first remember your dreams, then you create a way to know you are dreaming- and you take control of that dream. If you just want to "dream" you only need the first step. Most people just write down the first things they think of when they wake up. Slowly they will start to piece together a dream, there brain is being told to "remember" in the morning- and as it continues to progress your mind will basically recall deeper and deeper into your dreams- at least as much as it can.

But all people dream even if they dont remember it, if they didn't, they would die (Usually go crazy, then die). Dreams are a vital part of sleep, without them our brains would be all screwed up -- think of it as a screen saver while your computer defrags- if you had no choice but to stare at your computer while it defrags over 8 hours- it would be nice to see pretty pictures instead of the bars and percentage ticking by slowly... A life time of watching defrag for 8 hours every day might cause you to go nuts...


Or you could not dream, but sleeping blankly, but dream and have daydreams(visions, premonitions, etc, I don't really know, they can be that important, dreams I mean) in the day time, my mind works that way, and I've proved it (in a sense)

in other words, I don't really dream at all during the night, if I do, it's probably something really important, but my sub-conscious works in the daytime, mainly through daydreams, or sometimes the dream just pops in my head like a idea of sorts you know ;D

Here's some advice, go to bed, lay down, and make your mind go blank, just black, and don't try to think about anything, and just let your mind wander on it's own, and sooner or later you'll get a dream or just fall asleep, and again, a good thing to do is to write everything down you remember once you get up


As i said before. Everyone dreams, they just might not remember it. You may think you are having "dreamless sleep" but there is no such thing. If you get to REM sleep you WILL dream- perhaps not for long and you will most likely not remember it.

In sleep studies they have found that there studies do not always pick up dreams the same which has made the possibility of some people not having dreams questionable. Those who do not have dreams really suffer from neurological break downs over prolonged time without dreams, which is very rare unless you simply actually never reach REM sleep which is vital to the human body.


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Sage wrote:
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I wanna bump this, it's only a good 9 days behind anyway

Sage wrote:
Your problem is not that you aren't dreaming, it's that you aren't remembering your dreams. Everyone dreams, most people have 5-10 dreams a night, some say they have had more- some claim to only have one (which is unlikely but possible multiple dreams have been sewn together in a way you think of them as one). Most people only remember one dream, and it is usually the one you wake from.

You don't need to find a way to make yourself dream, you need a way to remember the dreams. Forcing yourself into having Lucid dreams requires that you first remember your dreams, then you create a way to know you are dreaming- and you take control of that dream. If you just want to "dream" you only need the first step. Most people just write down the first things they think of when they wake up. Slowly they will start to piece together a dream, there brain is being told to "remember" in the morning- and as it continues to progress your mind will basically recall deeper and deeper into your dreams- at least as much as it can.

But all people dream even if they dont remember it, if they didn't, they would die (Usually go crazy, then die). Dreams are a vital part of sleep, without them our brains would be all screwed up -- think of it as a screen saver while your computer defrags- if you had no choice but to stare at your computer while it defrags over 8 hours- it would be nice to see pretty pictures instead of the bars and percentage ticking by slowly... A life time of watching defrag for 8 hours every day might cause you to go nuts...


Or you could not dream, but sleeping blankly, but dream and have daydreams(visions, premonitions, etc, I don't really know, they can be that important, dreams I mean) in the day time, my mind works that way, and I've proved it (in a sense)

in other words, I don't really dream at all during the night, if I do, it's probably something really important, but my sub-conscious works in the daytime, mainly through daydreams, or sometimes the dream just pops in my head like a idea of sorts you know ;D

Here's some advice, go to bed, lay down, and make your mind go blank, just black, and don't try to think about anything, and just let your mind wander on it's own, and sooner or later you'll get a dream or just fall asleep, and again, a good thing to do is to write everything down you remember once you get up


As i said before. Everyone dreams, they just might not remember it. You may think you are having "dreamless sleep" but there is no such thing. If you get to REM sleep you WILL dream- perhaps not for long and you will most likely not remember it.

In sleep studies they have found that there studies do not always pick up dreams the same which has made the possibility of some people not having dreams questionable. Those who do not have dreams really suffer from neurological break downs over prolonged time without dreams, which is very rare unless you simply actually never reach REM sleep which is vital to the human body.


I remember watching a video in one of my Psych classes where a radio personality decided that he would stay up for 10 days and broadcast the whole time taking an hour break every now and then. By the 10th day he'd barricaded himself in the room and was raving that doctor was trying poison him with some kind of alien toxin.

There was another kid who went for almost as long, but he was perfectly fine. They speculate that he was having things they called "microsleeps" where he would fall asleep for like 2 or 3 seconds. Which raises the question, exactly how long does it take to slip into REM sleep? Most say it's a couple hours, but if he can do it in 2 seconds, how can that be the case?
I personally remember falling asleep in class and having a dream, not related to class and I was only out for 2-5 minutes.

In any case. The way I usually remember dreams is drink a pop before I go to bed, but that's because I sleep really deeply so I have a hard time remembering them otherwise.


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