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It is **** sad... i cant believe how ****ed the government is...

Things like,

- North American Union
- Amnesty to those who jumped the fence to get to USA [This one get me really ticked off]
- Exportation of Jobs to China and Illegals
- Unfair Trade Practices
- Insane Dept (Hopefully I spelled that right)
- Not caring about world pollution

Really make me sad...

Whats your take?

World pollution... Global warming... It's all bs. The world couldn't care less about our tiny little puffs of smoke and aerosol sprays. How many cities can you see from the moon?

People who jump the border instead of coming into America legally and taking a citizenship test ought to be fired out of a cannon into the ocean near Mexico's coast.

I'm not overly worried about the greenhouse effect or global warming but I think you're wrong when you say no one cares. Last time I check people were rather pissed off because your government won't adopt the Kyoto Protocol. The USA are responsible for 25% of all carbon dioxide emissions, after all.

So I'm guessing you support the decision to send the passengers of the SS St Louis, because they also didn't manage to use official channels.

The reason that many of the illegal immigrants run the border is not because they don't want to, it's because very few are let in and the waiting list is so long that many would have died of old age by the time they got a visa, and that visa can be destroyed by officials for little or no reason. A Brazilian family (Brazil has a smaller or faster moving list than Mexico, if I remember correctly) that I know had to go through the immigration proccess a second time because their visa has torn apart by some a-hole beurocrat.

Oh, and you forgot Darfur.

Lastly, I think the best way to attack outsourcing is to use the humanitariand side of it (overseas sweatshops) to get the United Nations to at least show peer pressure to make many countries requier a living wage and humane working conditions, which would be lower in many of those countries than in the US but not as much lower as current minimum conditions are.

I'd like to see a source for this, because as far as I know a Visa cannot be revoked unless they did something wrong in the application process.

What type of enforcement is there, though?

If this artical is right

( http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europ ... l.warming/ )

then i dont think we are gonna have any problems with global warming what so ever. Problems will probably be more centered around having less energy than required because alternative sources havent been fully implemented yet.

Of course anything could happen =P




I agree fully! Illegal immigration only funds other illegal activies!

You do realize that, with exception of having entered the country outside of legal channels, illegal immigrant communities have exceptionally low crime rates.

Actually, there have been found ways to extract oil and gases from places which were thought to be completely inaccessible since this article was written. (Or so says a science magazine I read a few weeks ago.) So global warming is still supposed to be a problem according to some people.

It's kinda annoying, you've got a huge bunch of scientists who claim one thing and then there is another bunch which claims completely the opposite. How the hell are you supposed to know which one is right?

Same as every other dereliction from the law by a government officials. Just because it's physically possible for him to do that doesn't mean it's legal. Now that we've cleared that up, how about that source?

I meant the world as in Earth.

Yea i know what you mean. i did a search for it on google and so many articals from different news networks had completely different opinions.

Alot is theory this and theory that so its quite hard to decide who you think is right ^^,

also havent heard of that new way to exact oil and gas, but i guess i could go find out some time =P

Primary source: an interview w/ the immigrant couple I mentioned.
Now, why don't you tell me what you thik of the SS. St Louis, and weather you can seriously say we should send back anybody who doesn't use official channels.

Read the rest of the artical to find out estimates of problems global warming is already causing and reread the bigining to look at the time estimates. The vast majority of scientists agree that the amount of CO2 already released will cause positive feedback loops which will cause masive problems, including famines, droughts, blizards (because the weather will also become more mercurial), and floods. Even as the latest international [I can't remember the word for it] came out, there were many scientists complained that the study used older data in its estimates w/o including the latest data, which suggests a faster rate than previously thought. By this point, it's not weather we'll suffer from global warming, it's how much.
Also, the story shows even more trouble than global warming for those who know how oil is used. Find me ten products which don't include plastic components. Now think about the fact that most polymers use substances derived from oil.
Oh, and there are very few scientists who doubt human-caused global warming. They just happen to be the ones payed and paraded around by special interest groups.

An interview which I have no proof of aside from what you've told me. Show me an internet link, a date in a magazine or newspaper, something I can look up and verify. That's the point of me asking for a source.

First off, different country. Second, they apparently went through official channels and all had temp Visas at least, and the governing body of Cuba at the time decided to turn them away.

They were using tourist visas through corrupt officials. En rout, there was a big gov't clean up and the loophole was closed. In addition, it's the same concept, just in a differant country, so I don't see how it can be any more or less right.

The only thing I can say about the citezenship test is that it's important that every American has known certain facts in his lifetime. I have taken an advanced civics course and still didn't know some of the answers on the one my history teacher gave my class.

Should I be worried that an enemy army at a time of war saved more American lives than FEMA (I am, of coarse, talking about the British capture of DC in the war of 1812: they chased everybody out and burnt the buildings just in time to see the city leveled by a hurricane-tornado combo)?