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There are just a few things that really haven't been made clear {to me at least} about some of the things in the Twokinds world. Now I do like the way Tom dosen't explain everything at once, i mean, it's not like freaking drowtales, but he does get around to some important stuff. Maybe the things i write here will mean something. who knows.

well this is what i think of occasionally.

The Keidran Slaves.

It seemed to me that they were either prisoners of war, or captured from the wild. But If that were the case, Flora and Natani would've had a problem with the slave trader....guy...( forgot his name :( )
plus it looks like mike and....dog...guy...( :( ) Don't have to much of a problem being slaves, even besides the work.

So I think that the real "system" is that all the slaves in the Twokinds world are probably debtors who sell themselves as slaves or indentured servents (committed a crime and put into the slave trade).

The reason all the keidran in the human towns are slaves is because regulary free keidran are at war with the humans. So only the slaves are protected (kinda)

But this could also mean there can be human slaves...which we've seen none of....

So yeah....just a thought or two. :shock:

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Very interesting theory you have here. It makes sense.

Human, slave of course (they live longer) but most likly only in non Templar control towns and cities


It's also posible that some Keidran self other Keidrans as slaves (e.i kinda like how most Black slaves were already slaves in Africa)

Actually it would make sense if there werent so many errors in it - such as never seeing a human slave so we dont know if they exist- we do know they exist as Raine - though lying - said she was a Keidran slave and no one thought that was weird. So you could safely assume there are such things as Humans being used as slaves.

Just because Natani and Flora didnt start an uprising as soon as they met Eric doesnt mean they are for the slave trade, really they are all playing incognito so jumping up and freeing all the slaves is a bad move wouldn't you say?

I dont think they willingly chose to be slaves at all or indentured servants. They are seen as wild beasts that can be tamed and taught. The ones you have met so far have had very friendly owners - and a slave would rather continue being a slave for a good owner if it meant trying to run away would most likely put them at risk of being killed as an escaped slave, or caught again and ending up with a not so nice owner.

Yea, gotta agree with Sage here. The only reason the Keidran slaves don't seem to actively resist is because, well, they're slaves. When slaves misbehave, they get beaten. In their life there's no way out (remember the control spell thing?), so why make it harder than it has to be?

Also, think of it from your perspective. If you met some alien who ran a human slavery business and you were free, how would you react? Probably want to cut the guy up, right? I think Keidran, with instincts even more pronounced than humans, would feel the same way when they meet a human running a Keidran slave trade.

Tells me Keidran are captured, either from battles, or in the wilderness. Those Keidran are then bred to make further slaves. Remember how Eric (the slave trader guy) first talked about Flora when he saw her? "Must be a pure-breed." As though she's a mere animal.

This is war ;p War is not so pretty as debtors and indentured servants.

Which isn't going to make Trace very happy...

Ok, yeah, I see what you mean.
And as insignificantly as this may seem...there was that one guy too, ^_^;

http://twokinds.comicgenesis.com/d/20050921.html

..or just some kid whose "pa" put'em to work.

But you guys are right, they're both at war. The Keidran were probably contraband from disputed lands and such... and since the group does have to be on the quite side around the human towns, that goes with that.
It's a war that buisness owners saw as oppourtunity for profit. ( Is it me, or did that just sound a whole like shindler's list? *movie* )
.....I'm agreeing with you in my entire post..... ( :shock: You have powerful persuasion)

I guess....the whole war thing does explain it....oh well, I thought maybe it was weird or different, but now i think that this makes the most sense.
....* it actually feels like I got served. T_T *

(( PS: Apparently the word "contraband" changed. I mean it in the sense of items captured from the enemy during war time (the keidran) ))

Having an ancestor who was an indentured servant, and going by the stories that are still told within the family, yes, it was pretty much the same thing as being a slave, with the exception of having that incentive of possible eventual freedom.

Hmmmmm...we never do hear the Keidran decry the concept of slavery, do we? If they're not against the concept, then it leaves the question wide open...

The easiest explanation for this is that it doesn't suit the way Tom wants the story to go. Think about it, what would that actually bring to the plot? It just dilutes the poignancy of the story with platitudes. Besides, TwoKinds is set in a vaguely medieval fantasy world. Aversion to slavery is a modern concept; slavery was accepted, if not common, by pretty much everybody before the late nineteenth century Earth. Why should it be any different in the world of TwoKinds?

hmmm quite well said i must admit admirable point made! from which i concur on such a topic and i think that at least it makes you think as long as you are thinking about the comic then you get more interested