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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 2:04 pm 
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Aaaaand Pandora's Box is flung open and a torrent of fan speculation about which way Alaric swings comes pouring out! At least let me get my poncho first.


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Aaaaand Pandora's Box is flung open and a torrent of fan speculation about which way Alaric swings comes pouring out! At least let me get my poncho first.


Just quote the character sheet: Alaric's sexuality is listed as ambiguous, that gives room for speculation (more or less), but Natanis sexual orientation remains ominous through her current self-finding trip storyline.


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Aaaaand Pandora's Box is flung open and a torrent of fan speculation about which way Alaric swings comes pouring out! At least let me get my poncho first.


*snerk* What Pandora's Box? I think it's pretty clear which way Alaric swings...not a lot of speculation left to be done ^^


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I'm in a melodramatic mood today.....


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Aaaaand Pandora's Box is flung open and a torrent of fan speculation about which way Alaric swings comes pouring out! At least let me get my poncho first.



God, my head is in the gutter today.....


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For now, if Natani only likes guys, I'd call him gay. If he decides to accept his 'real gender', he'd be straight.

I think he's actually bisexual, though. Wasn't he flirting with a girl while drunk in a flashback? ..Or was that Zen? Tomato, toma-toh. Or however you express that over the Internet.


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Transbisexual!


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All I have to say is that I love her saying "Even if I did have these so called "Feelings"..." I can imagine her doing air quotes while saying it. I don't know why, but this sentence just makes me lol :D


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dunno why I associated the previous posts with this song

"Mr. Lover lover, Mr. Lover lover, girl, Mr. Lover lover
She call me Mr. Boombastic say me fantastic, touch me in me back
she say I'm Mr. Ro...mantic..."

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ok back to on-topicness, as I said, maybe Zen is coming out of the closet. if their link is so strong as it seems, well, maybe Zen being gay means Natani will start liking men...or something...

...yeah
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Even allowing that there is no going back, and she will forever think of herself as male, she should perhaps come to accept that she can and has fallen for Keith. And maybe, just maybe, he could have feelings for her. I mean, his best friend is Alaric, for goodness sake; it's not like he's going to have some sort of horrific homophobic reaction. :P It's at least worth a try.


My memory is getting a little muddled on this point, but hasn't Tom stated pretty much that she's healed, back to herself, and only holding onto the link because she's scared to let it go?

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Well, it's something I've always wanted cleared up. Is Natani bisexual, meaning she is sexually attracted to both genders, or did Tom mean (in her bio on the Characters page) that she's transsexual, identifying as a male while she has a female body, but calling it "bisexual"? We know that she's transsexual, that's been established as a fact within the story, so the question for me is whether Tom is indeed making it clear she's both transsexual AND bisexual, or if he simply used the wrong term in her bio.


I would not say it's established that she's transsexual. Unless you want to count brain damage as transsexual... which, to me, just seems rude. Brain Damage and Transsexuallity should remain two different labels, and not be conflated, I think.

As for the rest of the question, I dunno if she was flirting with that gal, or whether she would do so now, but having written gender-confused characters from time to time, I can say that coming up with straight/gay/bisexual as a title for them is very, very difficult. Conversations on that point often end up seeming a little bit like "Who's on First?" and I'd just go with bisexual meaning "don't know what else to call it" till she sorts herself out.


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Even allowing that there is no going back, and she will forever think of herself as male, she should perhaps come to accept that she can and has fallen for Keith. And maybe, just maybe, he could have feelings for her. I mean, his best friend is Alaric, for goodness sake; it's not like he's going to have some sort of horrific homophobic reaction. :P It's at least worth a try.


My memory is getting a little muddled on this point, but hasn't Tom stated pretty much that she's healed, back to herself, and only holding onto the link because she's scared to let it go?

Yes and no. Tom's on the record stating that she no longer needs the link to survive, and he's implied that she and Zen might be able to sever it (though it could not be severed through outside device), however, Natani is unwilling to let it go. He's said nothing about "back to herself." I have my suspicions that if she were to close the link, she'd quickly find the male part of her psyche getting muscled out, without Zen's presence to reinforce it, it'd be in serious trouble against battering of the feminine assault it's been under. I seriously need to get the codex on both of my computers...It's no good to me at work when I'm at home.


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YAY! I can read fine print now! :D (sorry, just realized this, seeing as that my eyes are getting better since I broke my glasses)


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YAY! I can read fine print now! :D (sorry, just realized this, seeing as that my eyes are getting better since I broke my glasses)

It's called copy-paste. XD


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YAY! I can read fine print now! :D (sorry, just realized this, seeing as that my eyes are getting better since I broke my glasses)

It's called copy-paste. XD


Or if you use firefox "CTRL" + "+ or -" to either zoom the text or shrink it :roll:


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or if you have a mac. you can just zoom in...


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