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 Post subject: Your opinion about True love and Marraige
PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:30 am 
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Before any talk about the topic begins, lets lay some ground rules. Have an OPEN mind. This thread is not about homosexuals or heterosexuals. All Ideas/views are OPINIONS. No one under any circumstances may bash your views, instead POLITELY give your OPINION about why you disagree.

1. Marraige - I for one am not for marriage. I see marraige as a contract because of trust issues. I think that marraige ruins most relationships. Notice I said most. I'm not saying that marraiges are wrong. I belive that most sucessful marriages are because that couple is flexable enough to withstand the pressure of that kind of commitment. My friend suggested that its because they found "true love"

This brings me to the next point of intrest

"True Love"/"Soul Mates" - I don't believe that there is your one person that you are chosen to be with. I hear that all the time from people who found each other within the same city. The odds that that would happen ( given the size of the world ) are extremley slim. I think its just that you found someone that was compatable.

I want to hear the forums Ideas/View/Opinions, I am open to disagrements about my opinions. Just be polite and give a reason. Who knows you might just change my view. I apologize in advance if there are any spelling errors.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:39 am 
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True love is an extremely western concept. As hard to believe as it is, the idea of romantic love is actually a foreign concept to most Asian and Native American cultures. Those cultures tend to (from what I’ve read in sociology) have the idea of physical love, but they don’t put much stock in it.

Evidence suggests that there is "true love" or more accurately compatible partners. But the idea that there's only one person out there for you who will complete you can be dangerous for a relationship. I'm not one to talk, but I believe there is no one person you will love perfectly but rather many of people who could, if only you worked at it diligently. Unfortunately, considering the high divorce rate of the United States, maybe people don't agree with me on that.

Funny thing though. Did you know that arranged marriages have a higher satisfaction and success rate than most romantic marriages? I think it has something to do with people mistaking lust for love in romantic relationships. And as for the arranged marriage, duty and obligation are a hell of a foundation.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:41 am 
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Well, considering that half of marriages don't work out, maybe we should, ya know, not get married right out of high school? ^^

As for true love... I think that, yeah, there are a few people who you would be perfect with. However, you're probably not going to meet 'em all, eh? So, its not that you're destined to be with a certain person, but that you are simply "perfect" for each other, and coincidence has brought you two together for a long enough period of time to realize this. So, it's what happens after you meet this perfect person that makes it "true love."

I can't believe in fate, but destiny's a whole new ball game. =^.^=


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:43 am 
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SpikeRulesHell wrote:
I can't believe in fate, but destiny's a whole new ball game. =^.^=


No you don't they're synonyms. The mean the same God damn thing.


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I say, get married at your own risk, my parents have been married for 19 years, and just recently have started havin problems.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:45 am 
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Strangely, I completely agree with Check Source...

At least it saved me some typing...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:47 am 
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Fate's the idea that you're destined to do...whatever you do in life. Destiny is your purpose in life. You don't have to believe in fate to believe that you have a purpose. I mean, if you're just here for no reason, what the hell is the point of living?


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:50 am 
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SpikeRulesHell wrote:
I mean, if you're just here for no reason, what the hell is the point of living?


Why would you need a reason? Would having a reason have any effect?


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:51 am 
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English wrote:
Dictionary: destiny (dĕs'tə-nē)


n., pl. -nies.
The inevitable or necessary fate to which a particular person or thing is destined; one's lot.
A predetermined course of events considered as something beyond human power or control: “Marriage and hanging go by destiny” (Robert Burton).
The power or agency thought to predetermine events: Destiny brought them together.
[Middle English destine, from Old French destinee, from feminine past participle of destiner, to destine, from Latin dēstināre, to determine.]


And-----

Dictionary: fate (fāt)


n.

The supposed force, principle, or power that predetermines events.
The inevitable events predestined by this force.
A final result or consequence; an outcome.
Unfavorable destiny; doom.
Fates Greek & Roman Mythology. The three goddesses, Clotho, Lachesis, and Atropos, who control human destiny. Used with the.
[Middle English, from Old French fat, from Latin fātum, prophecy, doom, from neuter past participle of fārī, to speak.]



They're the same thing!


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The Wiki disagrees!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:53 am 
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Who cares what the dictionary says? Fine, use some other word. It doesn't even matter. This thread's about true love, and you probably have a good idea what my views on it are, despite any confusion of words.

BTW, "English wrote"? LMFAO!!! =>.<=


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:55 am 
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It's Wikipedia! That's 50% lies! This is the dictionary! it is only 5% lies!
Also, nothing was cited in the Destiny vs. Fate part except for a bible quote, and that is hardly convincing.

I understand what you mean by the way, Ijust disagree with the word choice.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 1:00 am 
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TheSpiffman wrote:
It's Wikipedia! That's 50% lies! This is the dictionary! it is only 5% lies!
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Awesome...

It's purely semantics, true...but fate does seem to be more guided...and dark...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 1:00 am 
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Yeah, I wouldn't really quote the bible - after a gazillion edits and translations, I'm amazed it's even readable.

Not to bash Christianity, I'm just not uber-religious.

All I'm saying is, in all the ways I've seen the word Destiny used, the person in question had at least a little bit of choice in the matter. But yeah, I see what you're saying, and my dictionary, too, agrees with you. And I don't argue with that fat sucker...


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 1:05 am 
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I believe in love and all that fun stuff. I agree with most of you though, I don't think there's one person for everyone. Marriage requires two very flexible, mature people.

What kills me is kids and teenagers that think they know what real love is. I have several female friends that keep thinking they're falling in love, and one that even got engaged in the 11th grade. omgwtf.


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