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In an attempt not to raise dead topics, I'm making this.

I understand with this comic:
http://twokinds.comicgenesis.com/d/20070309.html

That Basitin's consider the feet, ankle, between the legs, and the base of the tail nudity.

What about the chest area?

The reason I ask is because you guys have seen my 'pixel art' that I've been doing of Two|Kinds characters. Well, I have my own character, of course you guys know her as Kitten.

Well... my problem is, as you all know, all the Two|Kinds characters I've done have been in their fur. So I'm stuck.

If a Basitin Female was in her fur, how much would she have to bandage before it would be okay for her to roam in public?

If I were to hazard a guess, I'd say at least as much as we would require for a woman to be "decent" and probably a little more. The Basitin nudity laws are apparently in place to keep them from seeing anything that has the possibility of arousing them since they find their awakened libidos to be discomfiting and distracting. We don't really know if they even consider breasts to be potentially arousing things, but, in the case of the Basitin, I think it's fair to err on the side of social conservativism and say they probably consider that nudity too. Keith might not have mentioned it because he didn't think it would be relevant or he figured they could put it together themselves (after all, Trace has been notably uncomfortable with Flora being naked in public anyway, and so she usually wears concealing clothing to humor him). He wasn't lecturing Eric, since Eric ought to already know the laws and would enforce them with his slaves.

Based on Kathrin's dress, there must be some amount of flexibility to this, but she's also not really in public and, despite Alabaster's words, I wouldn't be surprised if there's some amount of condescending tolerance of "indecency" for Keidran, "since they're practically animals who don't know better anyway."

But that's all a guess. We've largely assumed that their sexual proclivities are similar to that of humans, apart from an apparently species-wide foot fetish (boy, I'd love to hear the cultural context that produced that one...I think I've just found something to occupy the idle cycles in my brain). If that assumption is safe to make, they'll require women to cover up their chests. If that's not true -- if they hold no particular sexual interest in breasts then there's probably no taboo. (That is unlikely: the human attraction to large breasts is almost certainly tied to evolutionary pressures where large breasts indicated that the woman would be able to produce sufficient milk to feed offspring through infancy. Since it is desirable for your offspring to survive, that feminine trait became sexually desirable. Since the Basitin have all the hallmarks of a traditional mammalian physiology, those same evolutionary pressures would exist, causing them to also attribute sexual value to breasts.)

I've never really given much thought into the evolutionary explanations why, but Basitins don't associate breasts with sex, and don't technically require breasts to be covered in public. Basitins in general, male and female, just prefer to remain fulling clothed most of the time. However, if it's hot, it's just as acceptable for a woman to take off her shirt as it is a man.

I can say that the most desirable trait a Basitin considers in a mate is their strength. Basitins have a very strong, instinctual attraction to other Basitins who display fighting ability or combat skill. You could almost say that Basitins are so militaristically inclined because it supplements their lack of sexual deviancy. So to a Basitin, the stronger the woman, the more sexually appealing she is to him. Even if he does not consciously realize that this is what's happening. ;)



lol I'm not sure if I'll ever go into it in the comic anytime soon, but the original scripts describe a real, physical reason why Basitins require their feet to be covered. You could say it's their Achilles' heel.

Well that certainly explains a few things. Like the Stalker (that is the name everyone is using these days isn't it?)

Now, just to be silly: Grawr! Amazon women!

I suppose that's fair enough. If there's no association with sex, then there wouldn't be the taboo. Hrm... The reproductive act among Basitin is shaping up to be something rather alien to the average Human. Interesting...


No surprise there. ;)


*laugh* I suppose that explains a few things. Even why it was such a sudden realization -- it happened during a moment when she was demonstrating great personal strength.


Tom, that's terrible. You ought to be ashamed of yourself for that particular joke. :P

Wow o_o I feel suddenly enlightened....

Except I still don't know what to cover xD I'll figure it out. Thanks guys :3

Strength over beauty.. I knew there was a reason I like the Basitin race.

But along the lines of this 'foot fetish' everyone keeps bringing up... Man I can't stop laughing everytime I hear that. No offence to anyone who has an actual foot fetish cause I have someone close to me that has one, it's just a thing between my friend and I.. hard to explain...

Anywho, thinking about it now, covering them up would make sense. For a group of warriors, could you imagine going out into battle barefoot? Everything you can step on?

And shoes for paws would be strange.

Like I keep saying, caltrops are the great weakness of the Basitin armed forces. :)

-- And also --
This just continues to raise very interesting questions about Keith's mother. Keith's father was the Arms General, obviously he must have been a very sexy man by Basitin standards. So what was the draw for his father to his mother? Obviously she must have had some serious personal strength -- she successfully kept Keith out of the military longer than usual, apparently against his father's wishes. She must have been quite the character.

-- Though it occurs to me --
This doesn't really explain Laura at all. She hasn't exactly demonstrated much for strength so far. Maybe she's secretly a powerlifter or something...

xDDDDD

Hmn. Good question though. WHY is Keith attracted to Laura? I mean.. she looks so frail, weak, shy, innocent.... It doesn't add up >_<

I can imagine Keith's Mom.. she's awesome.

Keith's Father: He's going into the military.
Keith's Mother: No he is not.
Keith's Father: YES HE IS.
Keith's Mother: I SAID HE ISN'T AND WHAT I SAY GOES. NOW GO WASH THE DISHES!
Keith's Father: ._. meep...

Maybe it's just me, but I think Memetic warfare could really do a number on them. but caltrops are probably a more practical situation.

...

Speaking of caltrops, do Basitan have cavalry? (This probably isn't the right place to bring that up)

Given that they live on an somewhat isolated chain of islands, I'd say no, they don't. There simply isn't enough grazing room to feed any large scale cavalry force.

My reasoning is this: Natani made a comment on how small Basitin are; It's been noted many times before that when a species develops in an area with little room for natural resources, that species is noticeably smaller than any close cousins in geographically unrestricted areas. If there's enough of a scarcity of resources to force the Basitin to evolve smaller physically, than there can't be anyway sizable amounts of horses could be properly raised and fed, at least without sacrificing, by the islands standards, huge tracts of land for grazing.

Excellent. Now I know what I must do to defeat the Basitan in battle...

Unless they are extremly fond of polarms... or are incredibly disciplined... Or know how to fight in formation efectively...

...Damn it, this is just like fighting the Swiss.

Yeah, but she's also awfully caring, just like Keith's mother. Maybe that's it? I mean, it's not uncommon that people end up with a partner who has a similar personality to the father/mother.

Well, this is just a hazard guess, but since Keith was held back from the military much longer, suppose he didn't exactly fall for the toughest ones, but the kinder ones. Note, he was raised with Keidran for a while, so he fell in love with the child of those who are extremely kind to him.

As for Natani, probably just instinct to feel attraction for her. Attraction and love are two different things.

I think that had and has more to do with pheromones than demonstrating strength. Laura was giving off pheromones, which we know that Basitin are just as susceptable to as Keidren, and so Keith started getting feelings for her, which then blossomed into full-blown love. Makes perfect sense. <.< >.> It does.

I would say that she doesn't have to be. That is just the common sexual attraction for his species. Each individual is unique and have different interests. Keith's interests might be even less conforming to normal because he was banished. Additionally in the end theres more to love than lust (they are actually two different biological effects).