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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:39 pm 
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Hey all I got a question. If the U.S. was nuked what would become of the nuclear powerplants??? Why do I ask? Well I live less than 60 miles away from one and if we get attacked well.... You get the Idea. :shock:


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You'll be vaporized instantly. :D

Just kidding..or perhaps...
I don't really know, but it can't be good. But I think U.S. goverment make sure a nuclear disaster like that doesn't happen. But some day..
Okay now I'm just trying to scare you :p


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if you lived sixty miles away it depends on what kind of disaster happen it could be an explosive reaction ending in a massive nuclear explosion... you would most likely not be immediately hurt but that also depends they used to bury all old "used" fuel rods (they aren't all the way out) and could cause a secondary explosion caused from the first and wipe you out of the pile is close enough it might also cause a nuclear earthquake if it is buried deep enough and their is enough in there and the surrounding rock is the right density to transmit that magnitude of energy... or it could be a slow leak that eventually kills or gives radiation poisoning to the surrounding inhabitants but that depends on the reactor in the next year 50 percent of u.s reactors will be code yellow (medium risk of leak and explosion) and if you are really lucky you have one that is privately owned one owned by a person that doesn't tell anyone the current state of the local reactor and might be poisoning the populace as you read this but the fundamental design of most reactors allow minimum radiation leak (no reactor every built can keep every single radioactive particle contained)


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I wouldn't worry. Nuclear power plants aren't going to be a high priority target for a nuclear weapon. A terrorist is going to go for a population center and a country will go for military targets (STRATCOM, the Pentagon, that sort of thing).


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but... if they are an unbelievably good hacker they could set the core to meltdown
but most NEW reactors have a manual only setting and someone would physically have to do it


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avwolf wrote:
I wouldn't worry. Nuclear power plants aren't going to be a high priority target for a nuclear weapon. A terrorist is going to go for a population center and a country will go for military targets (STRATCOM, the Pentagon, that sort of thing).
Thats not what i mean. When the bombs blow (and let`s hope they don`t :shock: ) people will die and those who survive the inital blast will want to go home and find their family`s so if the nuclear powerplants are left unattended then them might have a meltdown and thats worst. Becuase there is more radiation and it is more concentrated and will not dissipate as quickely. You see most shelters are supposed to last at last 2 weeks, by then the radation level of a nuclear blast would have gone down enough for limited exposure, so you could go and find a "fresh shelter" but if a powerplant had a meltdown in 2 weeks the radation level would not have changed much. Think of this the U.S. gets nuked ok you go to a shelter but there is a nuclear powerplant near by ok and the operaters abandon the plant, confident that the plant will by fine untell the goverment gets back on it`s feet they go off and look for a reffugee camp or they look for their family`s anyway the plant`s water coolant supply runs out or there is a cave is in the pipes that get it there or some thing and the @%$# thing has a meltdown well you have 2 options stay put and starve or try to find another shelter and die form radiation poisning. So....


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Likely, if the Reactor is nuked, the main problem would just be fallout. As far as I'm aware, the power wouldn't combine. Of course, considering Fallout radii, that isn't neccessarily a good thing.


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Uh.. what?

Either way the radiation is gonna suck. Everyone is gonna get sick, and some people are gonna die...

Just pray you have enough food and water. And don't think so negatively xD

If a nuke hits here, I'll be dead :D


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Kitten wrote:
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Uh.. what?

Either way the radiation is gonna suck. Everyone is gonna get sick, and some people are gonna die...

Just pray you have enough food and water. And don't think so negatively xD

If a nuke hits here, I'll be dead :D


Yeah- Kitten and I are in a prime target area for a strike on the US. Virginia's East coast area is mostly military- we have ship yards, naval stations, coast guard, air force, you name it - the east coast is a huge target for military strikes and terrorist attack (VA Beach has the largest population in Virginia last time I checked, and i doubt even if they arent anymore its still enough people- that includes maaaaaany military workers so for terrorist its a win win situation). We are also just a hop skip and a jump away from DC and we have a great number of areas of historical value (im actually sitting right now on the area where the American Revolution ended on the York River a short walk from the Yorktown Battlefields and the cave Cornwallis used as a shelter while trying to escape using the York River.


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Don't forget, the Yorktown Weapons Station...

There's BIG bombs over there...


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Check out these movies. I think I speak for every one when I say sucks to be them.

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one strange cat wrote:
but... if they are an unbelievably good hacker they could set the core to meltdown
but most NEW reactors have a manual only setting and someone would physically have to do it
No, no they couldn't. Not even on old reactors. Those components of a reactor aren't even connected to the internet, and even if they were they aren't that vulnerable. There are physical safety systems in place to prevent that sort of thing, and the only way the hacker could remove them is if he were inside the plant and were a nuclear engineer.


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Not being a nuclear physist, wouldn't the addition of radioative materials (some of which might be wepaosn grade- just saying...) increase the explosive power from a bomb at ground level? Say a car with a nuclear package in the trunk (I spend too much time plotting strategies like this....way too much time :? )


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As you're asking about the results of neglect following an attack, I recommend reading a book about what would happen if all humanity disappeared that was published recently.

Don't worry, though, it's far more likely the attackers would simply decide to bring an aggressive, corn destroying insect into America, which I believe reading a terrorist organization has an interest in doing.


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Blue62 wrote:
Not being a nuclear physist, wouldn't the addition of radioative materials (some of which might be wepaosn grade- just saying...) increase the explosive power from a bomb at ground level? Say a car with a nuclear package in the trunk (I spend too much time plotting strategies like this....way too much time :? )
No, it wouldn't. It would only do that if it was close enough to the original fuel to continue the chain reaction, and if memory serves, it would have to be pretty close(i.e. actually in the warhead). Besides that, a nuclear power plant can't actually explode. It can melt down, but that's a far different scenario.


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