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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:14 pm 
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OK, out of curiosity, what is the average gestation time for Keidrans? I figure it would be proportional to the length of human gestation, which would imply it could be found by the formula a/b=c/d, where a is the average human lifespan, b is the average human gestation time, c is the average Keidran lifespan, and d is the average Keidran gestation time. Now the average human lifespan is about 80 years, gestation time is nine months. Convert both to days and you have 29,220 days as their lifespan, and 274 days for their gestation time, on average. Now, if I remember correctly, Keidrans live for about 25 to 30 years, so take the longest of those, 30 years, which is 10,957 days. This gives us
29,220/274=10,957/d. Utilizing cross-multiplication, we get (29220d)=(274x10957), which reduces down to 3002218 days, which we then divide by 29220, which gives us an average of 102 days for Keidran gestation. Convert that to weeks, and that gives us 14.5 weeks, or about three and one half months. Is this accurate, or did I make my brain go through the pain of all that math for nothing?
I ask because, at least a week has happened in the comic since the event that everyone says resulted in Flora's pregnancy. If she is pregnant, has a gestation time of 14.5 weeks, and it's been a week or so, then we should be seeing some definite evidence to that pretty soon.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:09 pm 
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Aleolus wrote:
OK, out of curiosity, what is the average gestation time for Keidrans? I figure it would be proportional to the length of human gestation, which would imply it could be found by the formula a/b=c/d, where a is the average human lifespan, b is the average human gestation time, c is the average Keidran lifespan, and d is the average Keidran gestation time. Now the average human lifespan is about 80 years, gestation time is nine months. Convert both to days and you have 29,220 days as their lifespan, and 274 days for their gestation time, on average. Now, if I remember correctly, Keidrans live for about 25 to 30 years, so take the longest of those, 30 years, which is 10,957 days. This gives us
29,220/274=10,957/d. Utilizing cross-multiplication, we get (29220d)=(274x10957), which reduces down to 3002218 days, which we then divide by 29220, which gives us an average of 102 days for Keidran gestation. Convert that to weeks, and that gives us 14.5 weeks, or about three and one half months. Is this accurate, or did I make my brain go through the pain of all that math for nothing?
I ask because, at least a week has happened in the comic since the event that everyone says resulted in Flora's pregnancy. If she is pregnant, has a gestation time of 14.5 weeks, and it's been a week or so, then we should be seeing some definite evidence to that pretty soon.
Wouldn't one assume that this comic http://twokinds.comicgenesis.com/d/20050715.html (last panel) is the day flora became preggo? I mean, it's the one where Ephemural starts allowing interbreeding again, so that could have a symbolic meaning, perhaps as an implication that flora is preggo, before we even started saying she was. If that's the case, then a lot more than a week has happened since she got preggo. I mean, not too much more, but a good deal. Or, I could be talkin' out mah butt again.

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Wouldn't one assume that this comic http://twokinds.comicgenesis.com/d/20050715.html (last panel) is the day flora became preggo? I mean, it's the one where Ephemural starts allowing interbreeding again, so that could have a symbolic meaning, perhaps as an implication that flora is preggo, before we even started saying she was. If that's the case, then a lot more than a week has happened since she got preggo. I mean, not too much more, but a good deal. Or, I could be talkin' out mah butt again.

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Its a bit off topic, but is there something wrong with the fact that i kept seeing that spelled as the pasta sauce?


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Soooo...why are we figuring it was only about a week? Was their boat ride that short?
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Wait - checked back, and found this comic:
http://twokinds.comicgenesis.com/d/20061201.html
Those three weeks, plus another 4-5 days that transpired while Natani was locked in her room, and as they later approached the island, means that they were at sea for around a month...


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Yes, but wasn't that scene Insomniac posted during the boat ride? If not, then it's been a month, meaning we'll find out even sooner than I had thought!


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First of all, its been approximately 6 months since Trace met Flora, as shown in This alternate comic version. It was updated because, as Tom himself said, he meant that they had been together for 6 months and not "sleeping together" for 6 months(I.E. Flora is *not* 6 months pregnant).

The current version Here says that they have been "sleeping together" for over a month, which means Flora is over a month pregnant.

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OK, but that still doesn't say how long their gestation time is. Because if I'm right, and it's a little over three months, things should become very obvious fairly soon!


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Aleolus wrote:
Yes, but wasn't that scene Insomniac posted during the boat ride? If not, then it's been a month, meaning we'll find out even sooner than I had thought!
The scene I posted was quite a while before the boat ride. It was right after the Ephemural battle, in the town that, if I'm remembering correctly, vanished while they all slept.


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OK, but no one has answered my question as to the average Keidran gestational time yet. The answer would even be altered if I am misremembering their lifespans, because that would throw off the formula. Someone, please tell me if they think I'm on track or not, please!


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Aleolus wrote:
OK, but no one has answered my question as to the average Keidran gestational time yet. The answer would even be altered if I am misremembering their lifespans, because that would throw off the formula. Someone, please tell me if they think I'm on track or not, please!
Okay, unless Tom himself lays down some hard numbers, all we can do is conjecture. Even so, I think your hypothesis is probably as close as we are going to get for now...

That said, you're right - your guess as to their lifespan is off. In this comic, http://twokinds.comicgenesis.com/d/20061222.html Eric states that Keidran only live for about 20 years - 5-10 less than your guess. Using that as a base, they live for roughly 1/4 the length of a human, making the math much easier. 1/4 of the human gestation time is about 69 days...so if Flora was about a month pregnant, she'd be into her second trimester...and it would be fairly evident...hmmmm...interesting.


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Tuna wrote:
Aleolus wrote:
OK, but no one has answered my question as to the average Keidran gestational time yet. The answer would even be altered if I am misremembering their lifespans, because that would throw off the formula. Someone, please tell me if they think I'm on track or not, please!
Okay, unless Tom himself lays down some hard numbers, all we can do is conjecture. Even so, I think your hypothesis is probably as close as we are going to get for now...

That said, you're right - your guess as to their lifespan is off. In this comic, http://twokinds.comicgenesis.com/d/20061222.html Eric states that Keidran only live for about 20 years - 5-10 less than your guess. Using that as a base, they live for roughly 1/4 the length of a human, making the math much easier. 1/4 of the human gestation time is about 69 days...so if Flora was about a month pregnant, she'd be into her second trimester...and it would be fairly evident...hmmmm...interesting.

Although, I do think the long estimate of 30 years is a good idea, as then we know that it has to be less than that.
Well, we do know one thing: Whenever it happens, it will probably happen in the middle of a battle or something, at the worst possible moment.
At least, it should! :P


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Tuna wrote:
Aleolus wrote:
OK, but no one has answered my question as to the average Keidran gestational time yet. The answer would even be altered if I am misremembering their lifespans, because that would throw off the formula. Someone, please tell me if they think I'm on track or not, please!
Okay, unless Tom himself lays down some hard numbers, all we can do is conjecture. Even so, I think your hypothesis is probably as close as we are going to get for now...

That said, you're right - your guess as to their lifespan is off. In this comic, http://twokinds.comicgenesis.com/d/20061222.html Eric states that Keidran only live for about 20 years - 5-10 less than your guess. Using that as a base, they live for roughly 1/4 the length of a human, making the math much easier. 1/4 of the human gestation time is about 69 days...so if Flora was about a month pregnant, she'd be into her second trimester...and it would be fairly evident...hmmmm...interesting.


Hmm, implying that it is longer than proportional to humans, which doesn't make a lot of sense. Hmmm, maybe crossbreeds have a gestation somewhere between Keidren and human. Which would imply you take the average between the two, or (273 days+69 days)/2, or about 171 days, or about 24 weeks


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Why don't we just use Cat / Dog scales?

I mean, they live about the same time as a Cat (Aunts cat lived to be 22 before passing), and 20 seems to be for Kiedran what 80's / 90's is for humans [Beyond the average, though not too rare].

Much easier than to assume everything scales similarly to humans and thier lifespan (Heck, you have to remember that for a long time 50's and 60's was a "long" time, so even that would be better to consider for average lifetime if you had to use humans than the 80-100 year expectancy used in most calcs, let alone that humans can only breed over about a 30-year period).

That reminds me, do Kiedran go through some form of Menopause?


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Probably not as most animals don't.


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