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 Post subject: Militant Androids
PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:23 am 
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Practical military robotic soldiers

Would this type of tech be reasonable or necessary? Would you want to put your trust in a self sustaining robotic militant. Would you hand it a weapon. Would you allow it to give orders to others of its kind or even other humans?
Would you order it to kill?

This kind of tech is not even 10 years away in application, this is just an errie glimpse of what could soon be policing 3rd world nations.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:40 am 
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Appleseed anyone?

The idea of this is kind of frightening but, it is a step forward. Any way to keep out men from dying on the field is a good thing. The fear with this type of technology is the fear of a "renegade" machine first. Then there is the idea that maybe once technology like this is implemented, governments will use the "well none of our people are dying" idea to justify pointless conflicts. The lack of the human cost element in that might make people more careless and more likely to send in "troops" where if it were an all human military they would not have.

That is my USD 0.02.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 3:24 am 
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Interesting that Asimov's robotic laws are already out the window on this one.

Interesting side rant: the point in the movie was NOT the point in the books: in the book, trouble arose anytime they changed or meddled with the robotic laws.

It appears, somebody wasn't paying attention in both cases.

sidenote: armageddon now groups have been howling about the "immenient droid soldiers/ droids taking over omg omg" for ages.

the closest anyone has come to that, that I have reliably seen is a robot that learned how to catch a ball. once.
even that might have been an accident.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:05 am 
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If they started making MASS robots in more numbers then the human race.THEN we have a problem.If they make maybe 1000 robots thats enough to take over at least 1 country because if they made it out of The armor made in tanks.It would be a walking tank.

They already have remote controlled mini-robot tanks able to fire off.Rocket launchers.Large machine guns mounted on it.And any other gun a normal soldier could hold.

Plus it can disable a bomb.

They already got robots just not walking killing machines.

No end of the world in my opinion


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Do what John Connor did. Capture one, reprogram it to stop ze apackolypse, jah!


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Mm, but the descision to fire or not is not something you'd leave to a computer program. They have a hard enough time telling horses from cows.

Also, I sense a fake. Mostly because it can walk/jump. Well. Robots today are worse than people. By alot. Seriously, a guy in a wheelchair could outrace them.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 1:02 pm 
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This is scary.

Androids....are we becoming our imagination? I'd rather the earth become a place of recreation, not war and death. Life's too short to spend on stress and war. :(


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Arachnion Made Manifest wrote:
Mm, but the descision to fire or not is not something you'd leave to a computer program. They have a hard enough time telling horses from cows.

Also, I sense a fake. Mostly because it can walk/jump. Well. Robots today are worse than people. By alot. Seriously, a guy in a wheelchair could outrace them.


:P It was CG effects, so no, it wasn't real footage.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:55 pm 
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FastChapter wrote:
Arachnion Made Manifest wrote:
Mm, but the descision to fire or not is not something you'd leave to a computer program. They have a hard enough time telling horses from cows.

Also, I sense a fake. Mostly because it can walk/jump. Well. Robots today are worse than people. By alot. Seriously, a guy in a wheelchair could outrace them.


:P It was CG effects, so no, it wasn't real footage.



While well done very pretty CG, just watch the part where all you see is a floating bullet casing floating in the air about 51 seconds into the vid, OBVIOUS CG. I cannot help but be amused by the similarity of the Bot in the vid to Appleseed.

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I SAY!!!
awesome!
But I hope there is a way to turn them all off incase they get smart.


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I see no reason they can't be RC, instead.Why use artificial intelligence at all?


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Ai is a learning program, RC is just a command.

AI can learn, and NOT forget, unless a malfunction occurs.


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AI is also science fiction & highly unreliable. RC is not. Do you see where this is going?


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A robot can only truly turn on it's master if it can think fully for itself in a way that isn't preprogrammed. This would of course mean that the robot would have to be self aware, which I very much doubt these things will be.


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Arachnion Made Manifest wrote:
AI is also science fiction & highly unreliable. RC is not. Do you see where this is going?


you got it all wrong, I'm AGAINST it, I hate the idea of robotic people enforcing law.

Law-Enforcing robots with guns tend to go awry.

ROAD ROLLER DA!

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WRYYYYYYYYY!


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