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Ranting board, and there's at least one thread that's pretty much the same.

heh 2 posts... |D i just go around making funn of people but i sometimes actually reply... polotics.... :roll:

So your gerbil-brained CSI thread got deleted, and you make an "I [censored] hate McCain" thread in its place.

Slow learner.

Actually, it was a "What made you lol" thread. Then it became a McCain thread.


Yes, his VP is unexperienced. Vastly. It's his way of trying to draw on that well of woman voters intending to vote for Hillary before her lose. And yes, the Republicans are pretty much turning everything they said against Obama and Hillary around to support her.

I saw he edited his post four times. And it's still chock full of typos.

It's an interesting political move, that's for sure. I actually think it's a sound one, from an electability standpoint. She's got some amount of executative experience, she's strong and personable, and she advocates a lot of the base's values very well -- which helps McCain, who's often seen as not always standing for quite the same things as the Republican base. And yeah, it lets the Republicans play identity politics, for the first time since 1984. Considering how no one can possibly forget that Obama's black, what with all the discussion about how he's the "post racial candidate," how's it unfair to play a bit of that game ourselves?

I'd argue her experience -- she shapes up very strongly against Obama. Yes, it's not the depth of experience I'd like to see, but it beats out Obama. I'm not as concerned about foreign policy experience -- McCain's got that covered. He could use some shoring up on the economy, which he's noted he's weak in. She's got a strong anti-corruption history (her own abuse-of-power semi-scandal notwithstanding) and she opposed Stevens on the "Bridge to Nowhere," cutting it's funding within a couple months of becoming governor, so that's promising.

I take a lot more amusement out of watching the Obama-supporters suddenly take experience so seriously, when before they were insisting that it was better to have someone from the outside of Washington. Her response that "being mayor is sort of like being a community organizer...only with responsibility," was a laugh riot.

Yeah. i really don't care about typos. Not At All. But if it will stop you from complaining...

Heh. Gerbil.

McCain was very smart man when choosing a female, strong-willed VP, yeah. But some minuscule research on her reveals that she's the biggest flip-flopper I've ever seen in my life.

-When she was mayor of the 2nd largest town in Alaska (at the time with a population of ~9000), she left it in debt over *20 million dollars*. 9000 people, $20 million in debt. This after her stressing about how the economy needs fixing.

-She recently was quoted to say "The constitution should be read and taken literally, especially in the case of marriage. Not a word of it should be changed." She then advocates the teaching of creationism in public schools, completely contradicting the separation of church and state.

-She recently spoke out against dog tagging (requesting federal funds for your city/state), even though when she was mayor of that town she had 28 different dog tag requests (the average mayor had 9 or 10), 2 of which McCain himself used as an example of frivolous government spending before she got his VP nomination.


I don't have anything against McCain. He knows how to serve his country, no questions asked, and I salute him in the most literal sense. But I think he seriously, seriously hurt his chances by taking that crazy evangelical woman as his VP. She's charismatic and strong-willed but has a horrendous political history. On a personal standpoint, I also think the stance of "No abortion unless the mother will die" is abhorrent. Even rape and incest victims should be forced to give birth according to her. According to http://www.gallup.com/poll/109996/Gallu ... in-43.aspx , McCains chances started to go down more and more after he chose her as VP.

Well I think we can all agree that she was picked for two reasons, her youth and her gender. I heard an interesting view that "waving a picture of a woman in our faces won't make us want to vote for you, we have our own thoughts on policies... we don't vote because of our physiology". I honestly don't know what the majority of Hilary supporters will do. Lets be honest, part of the reason some of them were voting for her because she'd be the first female president.

On an interesting side note I found out that Palin actually supported the bridge to no-where when it was originally purposed... and accepted 223 million dollars for the project, and when public opinion caught wind of it she changed her stance and kept the money :(

An interesting pick to be sure, I'm interested to see the reaction after both conventions fervor die down (for both VP picks)

My bet is McCain just handed Obama the election with that VP pick. Less than two years as a governor, her prior career was a mayor, a city council member before that? This after a lot of the anti-Obama sentiment was directed as his perceived inexperience. And now she's being sued by an ex-coworker... and that bridge-to-nowhere fiasco.

But she has boobs. And if it weren't for all the other stuff, those boobs would've gotten her the White House.

In all seriousness, if McCain wins and he kicks the bucket, this woman is going to be the most powerful person on the planet. You might as well gather up all the small-time mayors in the U.S. and spin a bottle. You might get a better pick for Veep.

Definitely, 100%. I think McCain is a nice guy and a good man and a soldier and all that jazz, but right now America desperately needs a liberal agenda. A conservative agenda which helps the upper class but leaves the middle and lower classes to pick up their slack like we've been doing the last 8 years in Corporate America isn't something I want to keep putting up with.

And before anybody says "But McCain will *lower* your taxes!!!11!1one", yes, yes he will. And just look at what Obama will do to taxes as well -



Notice how one guy actually tries to get us out of debt by taxing multi-millionaires what they should be taxed, instead of giving them a bigger tax cut than the poorer guys who really need it.

^_^ Graham finds all the fun statistics.

That one's untrue, Graham. The Associated Press admits it themselves.

The bit casterclass dug up on the Bridge is disappointing. I'm interested in looking into it further -- everybody interviewed there were parties interested in the construction of the bridge and were sore that she canceled it.

-- Tightened up my point to avoid confusion --