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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:32 am 
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The only tutorials that are for "drawing like Tom" are anime tutorials. Most of them suck and wont help you. Many of them wont help you draw like Tom but rather a generic anime style.

No matter how much you add on to GIMP it is not the same as Photoshop and Photoshop will always be better than GIMP because it is everything you need right away with all the options and shortcuts that mimic the controls used on many high end art programs and it is the world standard for Graphic Design, 2D animation digital coloring, texture work for 3D, and digital art of all kinds.

And Vector art is commonly done with the aid of a tablet as well, when it can be, otherwise it has some form of reference (photo or a sketch that was drawn prior to the vector) to base the vector off of.


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I dissagree. I've been using photoshop since digital manipulation classes in art school. I've used PS 3- cs2.. I have CS2 and the GIMP, and and I do all my coloring, linework, layering ect in the GIMP. The only reason I still keep PS around is that some of the brushes and filters are diffrent and... well, I paid a [censored] for it. ;P


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Sage wrote:
The only tutorials that are for "drawing like Tom" are anime tutorials. Most of them suck and wont help you. Many of them wont help you draw like Tom but rather a generic anime style.

exactly my problem! this is what im looking for. i went to a couple of anime totorials, but they were drawing tutorials, and its kinda hard to attempt to draw in paint... gimp would be easyer i guess... but i mean thats what im looking for. theres like millions of terabytes of data on the internet, yet there isnt 1 tutorial like what im looking for?

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I dissagree. I've been using photoshop since digital manipulation classes in art school. I've used PS 3- cs2.. I have CS2 and the GIMP, and and I do all my coloring, linework, layering ect in the GIMP. The only reason I still keep PS around is that some of the brushes and filters are different and... well, I paid a [censored] for it. ;P

exactly. i on the other hand tried photoshop trial, but early on, as i a) wont pay $700 for photoshop, or b) download it illegally, i decided to just do stuff in gimp, and as i have seen its pretty powerful, its different from photoshop, but i say thats much better...


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Guess what Robbie! If you want to DRAW like Tom you have to actually DRAW. If you cant DRAW - then you wont be able to DRAW like Tom. When that sinks in either go cry or pick up a pencil and start DRAWING - because tutorials and advice arent going to make you a better ARTIST until you start putting them too good use by DRAWING.

Oh and "Experience with GIMP" on your resume is a lot like "Ive opened Paint before and used the spray can".


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Sage wrote:
Guess what Robbie! If you want to DRAW like Tom you have to actually DRAW. If you cant DRAW - then you wont be able to DRAW like Tom. When that sinks in either go cry or pick up a pencil and start DRAWING - because tutorials and advice arent going to make you a better ARTIST until you start putting them too good use by DRAWING.

Oh and "Experience with GIMP" on your resume is a lot like "Ive opened Paint before and used the spray can".

same with photoshop. anyway it seems i wont get any help... im basicly looking for a computer lineart tutorial, preferably furry type anime, in photoshop/gimp.
edit: found something like what im looking for, not perfect, but this proves it IS possible! http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/30635349/
and without a tablet too... hint: line tool in gimp owns!


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Sage wrote:
Oh and "Experience with GIMP" on your resume is a lot like "Ive opened Paint before and used the spray can".


Actually its nothing like that and It is aparent that you havent used a recent version. I am not- and I will not say that GIMP is better than PS, or vice-versa... But they do easily stand side by side. When it gets down to which one are you going to use, well then it becomes a matter of personal taste. I like them both. I have CS2, and will probly upgrade to CS3, BUT, I'm not going to stop using the GIMP, and upgrading it because it is a damn good program, and I am just giving recognition where it is due. I've seen it...and done it. I'd put the GIMP against ps any day, my GIMP images come out just as good (and usualy better) than images done in PS. It's just a matter of technique. Just like someone's technique in ps could possibly school me. Its a tool. When you start talking like that, and "experience on a resime" all you're doing there is just talking elitist [censored]. Its not better because you spent 700 dollars on it. It's not better because you use a Wacom tab. They are just tools. Some people are just afraid that a free, openscorce program may be just as good as the program they just spent 700 bucks on, and feel a bit defensive and insecure. Both the GIMP and PS are very good programs. In many ways equal, in other ways PS is better and in other ways, GIMP is better. But in the end they are only tools, and the only thing that matters is how YOU use them.


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bigjc wrote:
I dissagree. I've been using photoshop since digital manipulation classes in art school. I've used PS 3- cs2.. I have CS2 and the GIMP, and and I do all my coloring, linework, layering ect in the GIMP. The only reason I still keep PS around is that some of the brushes and filters are diffrent and... well, I paid a [censored] for it. ;P

I have to ask does GIMP use the same style for coloring as CS3, because the way it works in cs3 doesn't work for me, but that is why i am trying to fins Adobe Photoshop Elements which my school uses with Adobe Illustrator for computer graphics. Or is there a way to change the way the paint works in CS3, I don't like how going over a color darkens it more.


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Elements is nasty, i cant find the pen tool... Provided it even exists.
One thing that annoys me is that i have CS and the brushes have gone up the wall so i had to remake them... :roll:


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Well, that is another thing how hard is it to ink a photo with a mouse or on a computer in general, show i just buy inking pens from an art store


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http://www.posemaniacs.com/
A flash based site that shows the human body in various poses, without skin. You can spin the selected figure around for different angles and such. Pretty handy if, for whatever reason life-drawing classes are out of reach.
(sorry if this was already posted)


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Wow thanks, that will help a lot when all i had was Andrew Loomis's books and Drawfurry.com :D


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