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 Post subject: Ana's Art Thread (9/17/08: Dr. Spiff and Bad Horse)
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:50 pm 
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Hey, all...I've been lurking around the forums for a while now and have even said a thing or two, but I figured it's about time I contributed to the Drawing Board, since, well...I love to draw ^x^' And while I rarely get things beyond the sketchy stage (unless I'm threaten- I mean, motivated, by a deadline :D), I'd love to get some feedback from you guys while my art's still fixable.

So, without further ado, here's my first submish to the Art Board... *sweat*

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...a sketchysketchy pic of Keith and Natani :) Yeah, I know, it's a highly unlikely situation given the current circumstances...but I can't help it, I'm a fan ^_^

Tell me what you think, and maybe I'll actually finish something up for once.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:26 am 
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Do It! ... Please? :D

In my rather unqualified opinion, I think you've got a decent grasp of the difficult proportions of the Basitin cranium. I will say that Natani looks much softer, more feminine, than usual, but I'm not going to complain over much about that rendering of her, considering the scene you're depicting. Besides, we need more Keith and Natani fanart. At least I think so.


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Really good baseline picture... hard to say much without more detail.

the only critique I would have is natani's face doesn't seem quite right somehow.. I think it may be in the eyes or muzzle but I can't say for sure.

Other then that though awesome work, be sure to finish it!


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That's very soft. I do have one criticism though: Keith's tail looks like it's sticking straight out his backside. the tail is an extension of the spine.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:44 am 
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I think the picture is wonderful, and you definitely need to finish it! I don't think there's anything else that I can say that hasn't already been said. 8D

*Also a huge Keith and Natani fan, and thinks there needs to be more fanart!*


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I'd say it's an excellent sketch, but I'm far from an authority on sketches (far, far, far from).

Altoug, Natani seems a bit small to me. She's a little bigger than Keith, is she not?

[theory]

It's Natani's long-lost younger sister, whom happens to be equally sexy. Also, she makes it clear that she likes Keith. Natani must discourage her without revealing her own feelings. Oh the Drama!
Brilliant!
Why thank you.
Not at all.
[...]
Shall we have a spot of tea then?
Indeed!
[end theory]

I may have taken that too far. Yeah, way too far. Sorry. But seriously, nice sketch; very nice. ^-ˆ-^


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:07 pm 
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Thanks bunches for the feedback. Having an interested, insightful audience is a lot of help when my motivation is running dry. And now to acknowledge individual replies...

avwolf: All right, I'll do it :P And I'll blame Natani's unconventional femininity on stylistic differences. In general, Tom's style seems much more angular (with Kathrin being the obvious exception ~_~), which I'm guessing stems from its manga roots. My earliest influences were real-life observations and Disney, and I didn't become interested in anime and manga until much later. I'm not trying to emulate Tom's style; I just want the characters to be recognizable ^-^

casterclass: You're right, there's something about the angle of her muzzle and the position of her eyes that doesn't line up. A three-quarter view from behind is difficult, but I'll just have to work with it some more. Thanks (:

Dogman: Yes, it is an extension of the spine, but my Keith's tail looks more like an extension of his [censored].
...I'll fix that up right away :oops:

Jones: Thank you ;) Your work is nice, too...I especially like your most recent submission.

Sable Dove: Yup. You're right, she is a bit bigger. And while your long-lost sister theory is amusing, I think poor Natani has enough competition for now ^_^'


...now to get to fixing. I'll post a revised sketch in a bit, but in the meantime, here's something else for you to look at.

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This is an old drawing of my original anthro characters Kuro and Ana (respectively).
Uggh...I hate looking at old stuff. The mistakes are glaring >_<


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I love your KeithxNatani sketch up there... but it'd pwn more if it was Kitten :3

[Translation: Omg I love it <3]


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I love the style of this sketch (even if it is old). I especially love the shape of Kuro's jaw/chin. So manly. <3 And the ears are so beautiful that I just want to stroke them!


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Thanks Kitten and Jones for the compliments <3 And yes, Kuro is very manly...but mine. So no ear strokies for you :P

...anyway, time for my next installment of KeithxNatani fluff...here's the revised sketch, with a bit of messy color:

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...hope it's an improvement from the first. I wanted to maintain the sketchy-soft feel of the original (or I was just too lazy to clean up the lineart...), so I left it unrefined. I tried to fix up the boo-boos you guys pointed out to me before, but never got around to making Natani taller...we'll just say it's all in the legs ;)

Let me know what you think ^x^


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:41 am 
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Well, proportionally, it ought to be mostly in the legs (then again, Natani's on the order of six to eight inches taller than Keith, depending on how rough your estimate of Natani's height is and where you source Keith's height, so the legs are having to take a lot of height). :P

I really like it. I will comment that the shading on Keith's muzzle looks off to me. The muzzle actually will widen from the bridge of the nose through the upper lips (assuming Basitins have a muzzle shape similar to cats or dogs), so it shouldn't shadow so quickly below the bridge of his nose.

Sadly, it looks like anything resembling this scene is a long way in coming. And to play off Sable's earlier comments, Natani definitely looks not just soft, but young. Could be the innocence in her eye. Keith doesn't look quite as soft in this than in the first sketch, so he's shaping up to be a bit more manly (though not quite "burly" yet ;) ).


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Woah, nearly pulled this image up in front of my father. Thank Adun for alt-tabs.

I hardly ever post anything on the drawing board, so you should know that I like what I'm seeing. That rendering of Natani is one of the most eye-catching things I've seen so far. My only complaints would be the stray marks outside the main lines. I know you want to keep the soft, sketchy feeling of the drawing, but some of them are really sticking out.

Also, while I think Natani looks fantastic [I don't care about proportions like most people do], Keith looks a little... different. Some of the shadows on his body and arm are kind of off. I don't have any drawing experience of any kind though, so you're better off taking the advice of those with the certificates.


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!!!!!
Beautiful! I love Keith's tail now :3
And I agree, the shadowing does seem off on Keith a tad.


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Messy color is better than no color! :D

And, for some reason. Natani looks so much cuter than she did in just the sketch. XD <3 <3


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:38 pm 
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You're all right, Keith's shading does look a little wonky. Digital coloring's not my forte, and I struggled with it last night till I decided I had to go to bed or I wouldn't even be able to get up in time for my night classes ^_^'

I'll clean up the excess lines and work with a reference on his shading, then you guys can tell me if it's worth sending in to Tom :) Thank you for all the compliments and suggestions.


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