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 Post subject: Rants Kinuki You! Episode Zwei: The Rant Continues!
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:56 pm 
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So, what else can a frustrated fox rant about, you ask? Plenty, I say!

First of all, toothpaste. yes, toothpaste. Has anyone noticed that every few weeks, a new brand of toothpaste comes out from Crest? Total Health, Total Health Pro, Total Health Plus Scope, Total Health Plus Cinnamon Scope, ad nauseum (quite literally!) Just the other day they were handing out sample tubes for some new formula that does something or another, but get this, DOESN'T DO SOME OF WHAT THE LAST BRAND DID. Can you say, step backwards? But it makes sense business wise. Now they can release another God-darned brand in a few months that adds a feature or two from the last brand with the new one to bilk people for even more money.

What is so wrong with gay pride? I mean, people are always complaining about people "throwing their gayness in my face" but why is it sooo bad? I mean, how is gay pride any different than pride in anything else? How is it different than being proud of being a Christian? How is wearing a pro-gay shirt any different than someone wearing a cross? Claiming that someone shoving their "gayness" down your throat is annoying while wearing a cross is just hypocrisy. Besides, what do you expect from a minority that's been abused, harassed, and delegated to subhuman status for millenia until the late 60s? It's similar to black pride from the civil rights movement: people decided they'd be inferior no more, and a strong sense of black pride developed, and they celebrated and flaunted who and what they were. That's what gays are doing now. And the moment gays become mainstream and people stop making an issue of it is the moment gay pride shrinks considerably.

Besides, who gets to decide what "flaunting" is? Kissing? Holding hands? Hugging? I've heard people say all three were flaunting, and to that I say, that's complete bollocks. That's no more flaunting being gay than a guy and girl doing it is flaunting being straight. I mean, the mere fact that one of my friends got incredulous, scornful, even hateful comments and looks simply for cuddling up a bit in an airport is really ridiculous. No one deserves to be treated like that. We're all human beings, and if you wanna claim to be Christian or any sort of moral high ground, by God, act like it. God never said, "treat sinners like scum." He always treated sinners with more respect than he did the righteous people who tried to condemn them.

Speaking of which, why do people think they know how best to live for me? I don't tell people, "you know, you're a sinner, what you do is gross and you're going to Hell" if they pray to a God I don't believe in. I don't tell Christians that look down on gays that they're going to Hell or are wrong and deserve to be treated worse than I do because they choose to be Christian. I don't know what's best for anyone else. I don't tell people, "you must believe what I do." So I'm sick of people telling me that.

I'm also sick of people like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4QcyEjMydk. If what she says and has said (the "Holocaust is miniscule," etc.) doesn't make your stomach churn, then you have a stomach of steel. Ugh. She gives the nice Christians I know a bad name. She's an embarrassment to mankind and this nation. She has a right to say it, but jeez, she's just... sick. What she and her family do is sick, and twisted. If anyone ever wonders why I'm cynical and bitter and have a knee-jerk reaction to criticism of gays, she is why. At least this reporter fights back: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC7qZ6iywMY Good for her!

You know what else I hate? Ads. Specifically, ads that promote images of what sexy is. To be a sexy woman, you have to have big breasts, a small waist, and wear tons of makeup. To be a sexy man, you must have a big penis, a six-pack of abs, and biceps the size of hams. They tell people "you're not good enough, and aren't worthy of love, unless you look like this. No one wants you unless you look like this." What they don't tell you is that many of those models suffer eating disorders, have to go through several hours of hair and make-up prior to the photo-shoot, and that the photos are "enhanced" later to make their breasts bigger, their lips fuller, their waist smaller, their skin tanner, etc.I hate it because I know it has affected me. I don't think I look good at all, maybe even unattractive, because I don't have toned muscles and tanned skin and perfect teeth. And as hard as I try, I never get over feeling that way. Society outwardly places too much pressure to be thin and attractive, when most people say and show they don't care personally. It's a bad trend.

We must have a laughable English program in American schools. Everyone I talked to in basic, average courses had no grasp of proper punctuation and how it worked, or proper grammar and why things were the way they were. People don't know when to use semicolons, when to use commas, etc. You know it's bad when a contestant on "Who Wants to be a Millionaire?" didn't know that a colon introduced a list of items. She was a grown woman. And she geussed period. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF4gHS4nvSM) Part of me died after seeing that.

Lastly, is it just me, or is anyone else pissed about idiots in SUVs? I'm so sick of idiots that buy gas-guzzling Humvees (that's basically what they are, non-military Humvees) that get 10 MPG. I really wanna throw copies of An Inconvenient Truth at them. People just don't get that using oil is stupid, not only because of the possible climate change element, but because we're squandering irreplaceable resources when there are many ways of conserving and even eliminating the need for oil. But because consumers show they don't care, businesses don't care either, and will continue to use oil 'til we run dry on oil, the prices skyrocket because they have a captive market, or something worse. We have the capability to lead better, cleaner, more productive lives by making simple, gradual changes. And we're so short-sided we'll screw ourselves and future generations over.

That, and I can't stand post-modern art. Splatters of paint on canvas != art.


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I understand ya, I know where your coming from.

I always just use whatever tooth paste we have...I don't go for the frills and stuff...Just get the regular cavity protection stuff. Like toothpaste, darn near every product does this. They come out with variation after variation of one thing, and market it like it like they just discovered electricity.

I wouldn't compare flaunting your sexual preferences to someones religion, because they are two very different things. People get sick of it because nobody really wants to hear what turns someone else on...its like, you like other men?...okay...thats ...thats nice. I like people to know I'm Christian, I will wear a cross (If they didn't keep breaking, darn stupid Formica)...but I'm not going to go throwing it at people as if everybody must know. "flaunting" yourself obnoxiously is annoying no matter what its about, but not being afraid to let it be known is different. So I be giving the idea here that Christians hate people just because they don't agree with certain lifestyles. There is going to be as much hypocrisy and wrong doing in anything, anywhere, with everyone. And just like some Christians will treat gays like garbage, there is definitely going to be an equal number of gays who do the same to Christians. Just leveling the playing field people.

I gotta tell you tho, I have not run into too many people who like to condemn others because of their lifestyles. I find that its always just a debate between beliefs, and then people get mad, and thats when people get upset and get bitter.

Your right about the sexualization in advertisements. I don't think I have once seen a commercial in which I found one of the women to be at all attractive. Hell, I've seen commercials that down right say "We know what guys like" and I'm literally yelling at my TV, "NO YOU DON'T! YOU DON'T KNOW CRAP!" and it gets me angry. I hate that I have to get lumped into this idea of what guys like, when all I want to do is differentiate myself from it. They seem to think that guys like huge boobs, when honestly....I think they are gross, and If anything I like very small breasts. I don't like big hair, eye liner, eye shadow, lipstick, or hair dyes....they are stupid...I think its all bull crap. I don't like that they cover up who they physically are just to impress someone...do they think they are going to keep on this mask forever? Its going to come off soon, and we will see all your little imperfections...I see it almost as hiding who you really are just to make someone like you, and I don't want that. Models are not attractive to me, not one little attribute that they pass off as what guys want, even slightly appeals to me. I'm quite frankly getting sick of girls. (not in that way) I'm just sick of what I keep seeing, and how girls today seem to always be the exact same. My freaking goodness give me some choices!!!

I dunno bout SUV's but I can tell you one thing. I want a big car, I want something that will not compact into the size of a paper weight when i get in a wreck. At the risk of spending alot on gas....I want to live.


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I'm pretty much against all forms of public affection other than holding hands and maybe a quick kiss on the cheek. No one has to do that in public. There are private places to do that crap.

And what the hell is gay pride anyways? Wow, you're gay. Congratulations. Wow! I'm Filipino. I'm proud of that and to show it I'll go start a parade. I'll also sue the hell out of anyone who makes a nasty comment towards me because that's what we do in America. I would really like to know why it bothers you so much when some idiot starts ranting about someone's lifestyle. Grow up. Stop complaining. Learn to ignore people.

I think I've said this before but sexy is a collared button-down shirt and a skirt.

I'd also like to say that we're not destroying the entire atmosphere. How many buildings can you see from outer space? Not many without zooming in a lot. We're changing the climate over our own little spaces because of smog and all that great stuff. One volcanic explosion has caused more pollution in the atmosphere than all of man's pollution from the beginning of time to now. We're also not running out of oil. Like diamonds in a safe the oil companies are scaring people by saying 'WE IS RUNNING OUT OF STUFF' so they can charge ridiculous prices.

I, too, hate modern art. Or anything 'modern' for that matter.


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Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that I also hate modern art. Ah geez, I know this is your ranting board, but I have to make a quick point.

Yes modern art blows, its talentless (for the most part) and is basically a lazy persons way to say that they are conveying feelings and emotions in a stupid shape that they completely made up. Like, this squiggly metal pole symbolizes our rocky road through life...its stupid, you can do that with anything. Modern art is ugly, and an insult to real artists.

Speaking of insult to real artists, I saw this commercial for some art institute of design...holy crap... This stupid girl with pink hair highlights sits there and says "your not an artist? it doesn't matter anymore"

THAT makes me mad, that makes me SO mad. Basically they are saying that we have come to a point that artistic ability doesn't matter, that all you need to do is follow a standard procedure and you'll get a pay check. Everything you make here is going to be the same because it lacks any amount of artistic personal input, its just being taught what to press. "It doesn't matter anymore"...great, okay, so artists are no longer needed, just come on in, screw all of you with any real talent, we don't need you, we have computers, and talentless guides. GRRRR....


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Most medium size cars are safer (mostly because most medium car are foreign made). In addition: http://www.stuff.co.nz/4092867a11.html

People are worse at English mechanics because modern English is based around usage, so that people learn how to use stuff without learning what it's called. For example, I learned my grammar by reading.

I'm not sure how good teeth are an unreasonable expectation, as they are an indicator of good health and poor oral hygiene can lead to poor health all over the body. As for the other features, men are attracted to large breasts because they indicate plentiful milk, an athletic build because it means she can escape the lions, and a healthy tan because it is the opposite of a pallor.

As for toothpaste, why do car companies need to release a new model every six months?

That one volcano was a super volcano that could be seen hundreds of miles away. Maybe you should read some ice core readings, which show that methane and CO2 levels have never been higher. We managed to puncture the ozone layer with ten years of spray cans, so our releasing millions of years of carbon deposits can do something.


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My ideas be this.

I have absolutely no care about what you do in bed. But I do not want you telling me about it. People need to understand that just because they can make people uncomfortable does not mean they're hated. I'll flat out say I'd be uncomfortable if I saw a gay couple kissing. That's what's called your business, and none of my own. Please don't make it my business.

Ads annoy me in general. They basically try to play on emotions instead of actually telling you what the product is about. I've seen some that give you a brand name...but you don't know what its for. Is it a car? Or is it body spray? Toothpaste? How am I supposed to be interested in something if I don't even know what it is?

And I agree with Luca on the definition of sexy, along with pollution and loss of oil.

I need to do a rant, but I'm so blunt, stubborn, and Conservative I'd probably skip stepping on toes and crush them into oblivion.

EDIT: Depends on what you consider "Modern art." The one squiggle on the white canvas I hate, as do I hate anything that looks like someone went out to make a quick buck. But I've seen some modern art that's pretty talented, such as geometric stuff and painted watercolors of something that's basically a design but it's still pretty, you know? Not everything has to be a portrait or landscape to be beautiful.


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 Post subject: Re: Rants Kinuki You! Episode Zwei: The Rant Continues!
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What is so wrong with gay pride? I mean, people are always complaining about people "throwing their gayness in my face" but why is it sooo bad? I mean, how is gay pride any different than pride in anything else? How is it different than being proud of being a Christian? How is wearing a pro-gay shirt any different than someone wearing a cross? Claiming that someone shoving their "gayness" down your throat is annoying while wearing a cross is just hypocrisy. Besides, what do you expect from a minority that's been abused, harassed, and delegated to subhuman status for millenia until the late 60s? It's similar to black pride from the civil rights movement: people decided they'd be inferior no more, and a strong sense of black pride developed, and they celebrated and flaunted who and what they were. That's what gays are doing now. And the moment gays become mainstream and people stop making an issue of it is the moment gay pride shrinks considerably.
Flaunting it is one thing, forcing it on people and constantly exclaiming it is another. I don't like to be constantly reminded that you subscribe to a lifestyle that I think is particularly unnatural. On that note, however, I would like to say that if I'm friends with someone, or think that I could be friends with someone, I'm not going to let their lifestyle become an issue. I have lots of gay friends.
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Besides, who gets to decide what "flaunting" is? Kissing? Holding hands? Hugging? I've heard people say all three were flaunting, and to that I say, that's complete bollocks.
I agree with Luca, I don't like people doing that in public whether they're straight or gay.
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No one deserves to be treated like that. We're all human beings, and if you wanna claim to be Christian or any sort of moral high ground, by God, act like it. God never said, "treat sinners like scum." He always treated sinners with more respect than he did the righteous people who tried to condemn them.
That's exactly what I think. Which is why I don't think less of someone for their lifestyle. I just think their lifestyle is icky. xP
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I'm also sick of people like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4QcyEjMydk. If what she says and has said (the "Holocaust is miniscule," etc.) doesn't make your stomach churn, then you have a stomach of steel. Ugh. She gives the nice Christians I know a bad name. She's an embarrassment to mankind and this nation. She has a right to say it, but jeez, she's just... sick. What she and her family do is sick, and twisted. If anyone ever wonders why I'm cynical and bitter and have a knee-jerk reaction to criticism of gays, she is why. At least this reporter fights back: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC7qZ6iywMY Good for her!
I don't say this often, but people like those protesters need to go crawl in a hole and die. And I don't feel bad saying it. These people pick and choose scripture and base their lifestyles around the scripture they like the most, and it sickens me. That is NOT what Christianity is.
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You know what else I hate? Ads. Specifically, ads that promote images of what sexy is. To be a sexy woman, you have to have big breasts, a small waist, and wear tons of makeup. To be a sexy man, you must have a big penis, a six-pack of abs, and biceps the size of hams. They tell people "you're not good enough, and aren't worthy of love, unless you look like this. No one wants you unless you look like this." What they don't tell you is that many of those models suffer eating disorders, have to go through several hours of hair and make-up prior to the photo-shoot, and that the photos are "enhanced" later to make their breasts bigger, their lips fuller, their waist smaller, their skin tanner, etc.I hate it because I know it has affected me. I don't think I look good at all, maybe even unattractive, because I don't have toned muscles and tanned skin and perfect teeth. And as hard as I try, I never get over feeling that way. Society outwardly places too much pressure to be thin and attractive, when most people say and show they don't care personally. It's a bad trend.
I agree, this is a terrible trend. I have a friend who's absolutely gorgeous, but she thinks she looks terrible. =/
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Lastly, is it just me, or is anyone else pissed about idiots in SUVs? I'm so sick of idiots that buy gas-guzzling Humvees (that's basically what they are, non-military Humvees) that get 10 MPG.
Ew, no no no no. Hummers are not Humvees. They WISH they were Humvees. Humvees are actually cool. >_>
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I really wanna throw copies of An Inconvenient Truth at them. People just don't get that using oil is stupid, not only because of the possible climate change element, but because we're squandering irreplaceable resources when there are many ways of conserving and even eliminating the need for oil. But because consumers show they don't care, businesses don't care either, and will continue to use oil 'til we run dry on oil, the prices skyrocket because they have a captive market, or something worse. We have the capability to lead better, cleaner, more productive lives by making simple, gradual changes. And we're so short-sided we'll screw ourselves and future generations over.
I live in Alabama, so I see this in horrible first-person. Everyone here drives some kind of gas guzzling monster-vehicle.


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I understand ya, I know where your coming from.

Thanks. :) We do actually agree on lots of things, so I'm trying to do my best to not be all militant and mean (while not being afraid to stick by my convictions.) I feel bad about that.
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I wouldn't compare flaunting your sexual preferences to someones religion, because they are two very different things. People get sick of it because nobody really wants to hear what turns someone else on...its like, you like other men?...okay...thats ...thats nice. I like people to know I'm Christian, I will wear a cross (If they didn't keep breaking, darn stupid Formica)...but I'm not going to go throwing it at people as if everybody must know. "flaunting" yourself obnoxiously is annoying no matter what its about, but not being afraid to let it be known is different.

Ah, I see what you're saying. In that case, I can sort of understand. I find people who throw anything around and flaunt it to be annoying. It's like, "Yes Carlos... I know you're Latino, I know... can... can you please stop telling me about Mexico?" (and that's an actual conversation I had XD). But at what point does being open become flaunting? I wouldn't say effeminacy or how someone dresses is flaunting necessarily, because, that's just expressing who you are. I wear blue clothes because I like blue, I'm not flaunting that fact, just expressing it. Now, if someone's in full-on drag and screaming they're gay to everyone, yeah, that's creepy/annoying and flaunting. But I don't think wearing, say, a pink triangle necklace is unreasonable.
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So I be giving the idea here that Christians hate people just because they don't agree with certain lifestyles. There is going to be as much hypocrisy and wrong doing in anything, anywhere, with everyone. And just like some Christians will treat gays like garbage, there is definitely going to be an equal number of gays who do the same to Christians. Just leveling the playing field people.

Oh, I know the road goes both ways, believe me, I've met some militantly anti-Christian gays (they embarrass me.) However, being hateful because someone else just makes things worse. The only thing we can do is try and do our part to stop the hate. If enough people stop, there's a chance for things to be worked out. But it just spirals out of control otherwise. One person spews hate, so three on the other side spew hate in return. Five people on the first side retaliate with hate, and it degenerates into something no one want,s but the force behind it, once put in motion, is never easily stopped. Look at Israel and Palestine.
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They seem to think that guys like huge boobs, when honestly....I think they are gross, and If anything I like very small breasts. I don't like big hair, eye liner, eye shadow, lipstick, or hair dyes....they are stupid...I think its all bull crap. I don't like that they cover up who they physically are just to impress someone...do they think they are going to keep on this mask forever?

A lot of straight guys do like large breasts though, I have to say. Most straight guys I know like them to a point (I think large boobs are gross, FWIW.)
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I'm pretty much against all forms of public affection other than holding hands and maybe a quick kiss on the cheek. No one has to do that in public. There are private places to do that crap.

I find it ironic that you tell me to just "ignore" things that bother me but say this. I have a right to do it in public as long as its not disturbing the peace or indecent exposure, so why don't you, ah, "Grow up. Stop complaining [and] learn to ignore people"? :P I would also say I think it's laughable to say people can't show affection in public during extenuating circumstances. In this case, my friend wouldn't be seeing his boyfriend again for a few months. I don't think it's unreasonable to want to spend the last few moments before his plane leaves trying to be close.
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And what the hell is gay pride anyways? Wow, you're gay. Congratulations. Wow! I'm Filipino. I'm proud of that and to show it I'll go start a parade. I'll also sue the hell out of anyone who makes a nasty comment towards me because that's what we do in America. I would really like to know why it bothers you so much when some idiot starts ranting about someone's lifestyle. Grow up. Stop complaining. Learn to ignore people.

Gay pride is saying "I'm not going to let people make me feel like crap because of who I am. This is who I am, and I like me for being this way." It bothers me when it becomes hateful and attempting to put down, berate, or demean someone unfairly. I don't think it's uncalled for to express annoyance when someone says something derisive. I don't think you can say someone hasn't said something about you, your faith, your family, etc. that didn't get under your skin (but hey, could be wrong.)
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Yes modern art blows, its talentless (for the most part) and is basically a lazy persons way to say that they are conveying feelings and emotions in a stupid shape that they completely made up.

EXACTLY! Ugh. I once saw a print that was three blurry-edged rectangularly shaped blobs of paint of ugly pastel colors. "I can do better than this!" I said. I got a laugh from someone nearby. But it's true. Like an exhibit that was just garbage scattered on the floor in patterns. Michelangelo, da Vinci, Rembrandt, Monet, they're artists. These... people... aren't.
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I'll flat out say I'd be uncomfortable if I saw a gay couple kissing. That's what's called your business, and none of my own. Please don't make it my business.

So it's not unreasonable if I say that seeing straight couples kissing makes me uncomfortable and that they shouldn't make it my business?
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And I agree with Luca on the definition of sexy, along with pollution and loss of oil.

I just can't agree. There's too much evidence that indicates otherwise. I'd rather be safer than sorry with something where the livelihood of our entire race hinges on whether we're wrong or right. Figure, if we're wrong, we're still breaking our dependency on foreign oil, will switch to cleaner energy, reduce smog, have no worries of losing our energy source, and overall be making progress.
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I need to do a rant, but I'm so blunt, stubborn, and Conservative I'd probably skip stepping on toes and crush them into oblivion.

As long as you're respectful, go for it. :) I like reading other points of view.
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I don't say this often, but people like those protesters need to go crawl in a hole and die. And I don't feel bad saying it. These people pick and choose scripture and base their lifestyles around the scripture they like the most, and it sickens me. That is NOT what Christianity is.

Moreover for me, they act in the most un-Christian way possible. Unless I missed something, the Bible doesn't say "For God so hated the world, He gave His only begotten Son to save a few people." It doesn't say, "Love thy Christian neighbors, and hate the rest." Sad, sad people.
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Flaunting it is one thing, forcing it on people and constantly exclaiming it is another. I don't like to be constantly reminded that you subscribe to a lifestyle that I think is particularly unnatural.

How is it "forcing" it on you? And likewise, I don't like to be reminded people subscribe to a belief system that says I'm unnatural and abominable. But I don't get uptight about people showing off their religious feelings. And it goes without saying I don't agree that it's "unnatural," but that's another thread. :P

I dunno... sometimes I just feel hopeless about this world. I'm much to young to feel hopeless, and I think that says something sad about this world. I see people dying every day for no reason. Violence and hate and suffering because others commit violence, spew hate and cause suffering. People alone, hungry, unloved, beaten, abused, raped, and you see all this just going on and you feel like, the world's just going mad. The best way of describing it is the feeling you get when you hear "Mad World" by Gary Jules (from the Donnie Darko soundtrack.)[/quote]


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Apparently you misread my post.


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Apparently you misread my post.

Then please tell me how I did so and how I should interpret it so I don't misunderstand you, as that's not my intention. But simply saying that I misunderstood you doesn't really do either of us any good.


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Don't let this turn into a fight, you both post here you want to be friends :3


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Don't let this turn into a fight, you both post here you want to be friends :3

No worries. Everything I said above should be read with an even tone. :) I really do want to make sure I read Luca right. But without a clue as to what I'm reading wrong, I can't change it.


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Well first off, I said, "I would really like to know why it bothers you so much when some idiot starts ranting about someone's lifestyle. Grow up. Stop complaining. Learn to ignore people."

I also gave my opinion on public affection. Of course that's going to differ from other people's opinions and that's fine. I still don't like it and I won't even do it with my girlfriends.

And just to throw this in... "I don't think you can say someone hasn't said something about you, your faith, your family, etc. that didn't get under your skin (but hey, could be wrong.)" I've really stopped caring what people say about me, my religion, and even my family.


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:3 I know you don't care too much about all that public lovey stuff, but I tell you that If I found my bunny :3

Well I'd be snuggling her (like bunnys) (Just take that meaning of doing it like bunnys and adapt it to snuggling) all over the place :3 Id have to be like, HEY! THIS IS MY BUNNY o_o MINE!


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Kinuki wrote:
Delusional Kangaroo wrote:
I don't say this often, but people like those protesters need to go crawl in a hole and die. And I don't feel bad saying it. These people pick and choose scripture and base their lifestyles around the scripture they like the most, and it sickens me. That is NOT what Christianity is.

Moreover for me, they act in the most un-Christian way possible. Unless I missed something, the Bible doesn't say "For God so hated the world, He gave His only begotten Son to save a few people." It doesn't say, "Love thy Christian neighbors, and hate the rest." Sad, sad people.
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Flaunting it is one thing, forcing it on people and constantly exclaiming it is another. I don't like to be constantly reminded that you subscribe to a lifestyle that I think is particularly unnatural.

How is it "forcing" it on you?
My point is that when you start FORCING people to accept you because you're gay it becomes something else. You can't change someone's opinion of your lifestyle unless they want you to.
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And likewise, I don't like to be reminded people subscribe to a belief system that says I'm unnatural and abominable.
That is quite the exact opposite of everything I just said. I never said YOU were unnatural, but that your lifestyle is. And as was previously stated, I know it goes both ways; while many gays really push the idea a lot of Christians unnecessary push their religion, and it does draw my ire, seeing as how I try to leave my religion out of everyday discussion(debate like this is something else entirely. xP).
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I dunno... sometimes I just feel hopeless about this world. I'm much to young to feel hopeless, and I think that says something sad about this world. I see people dying every day for no reason. Violence and hate and suffering because others commit violence, spew hate and cause suffering. People alone, hungry, unloved, beaten, abused, raped, and you see all this just going on and you feel like, the world's just going mad. The best way of describing it is the feeling you get when you hear "Mad World" by Gary Jules (from the Donnie Darko soundtrack.)
Believe me, you are not the only cynical person in the world. At least you're not completely jaded about life.


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