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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:55 pm 
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I just started learning c++ a few weeks ago and now i think it may be driving me insane(or perhaps more so). i find myself thinking about strange things in the middle of class , today i started wondering how many class members are in my class members 0_o . Earlier i found my self thinking how many functions there were in my shower water. All this leads me to believe it is time to seek(more) "professional" help. Has this or some similar obsession happend to anyone else here?


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Use C instead of C++, like me :P
It perserves sanity much better, or at least that's what I keep telling myself :wink:
<rant> BLARG! I find C++ is an evil ugly hack ontop of C! Never use C++, always use C! and if you really want to cling to your silly oop, try Python</rant>


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Rednaxela wrote:
Use C instead of C++, like me :P
It perserves sanity much better, or at least that's what I keep telling myself :wink:
<rant> BLARG! I find C++ is an evil ugly hack ontop of C! Never use C++, always use C! and if you really want to cling to your silly oop, try Python</rant>
BAH! OOP is Joygasmic if you know how to use it correctly. Seems to me though not many truly do. And I don't see how C++ is such and "ugly hack," it's the same thing, except that it allows for classes and such. =P

Oh, and there are many good OOP languages OTHER than Python. :P I personally like C#.NET and Java, though I KNOW that is going to earn me flames. XD


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Yea, I don't know C++ but I have looked over it, I'm still debating if I should learn it or not. I'm taking Java next year... Anyway, I find the best way to calm oneself down during an insanity attack is to introduce your head to the wall untill you temporarily forget who you are. Just make sure its not your wall or you might end up paying for repairs to mysterious holes in the wall.


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C++ is terrible! I use Java which isn't much better but it preserves sanity a bit longer...


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Programming is the ultimate passtime of fat, anti-social, shut-in furries. So be careful where it leads you.


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i resent that statment..... all programers i know of are quite fun and plesent. take DK or ktemkin for example both = win


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i resent that statment..... all programers i know of are quite fun and plesent. take DK or ktemkin for example both = win
Why thank you. ^_^


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Delusional Kangaroo wrote:
BAH! OOP is Joygasmic if you know how to use it correctly. Seems to me though not many truly do.
The thing is, there are places for OOP, and there are places not to use OOP. The issue is people get high on the joygasmic feeling and start putting OOP where it isn't meant to go, and that leads to lots of REALLY ugly code... wow... this is sounding rather... wrong....
Anyways, in a majority of cases, OOP is not truely useful.

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And I don't see how C++ is such and "ugly hack," it's the same thing, except that it allows for classes and such. =P
It's adding such features to a language that wasn't designed with that in mind. It causes all sorts of messyness, hence the "ugly hack" part :P

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I personally like C#.NET and Java, though I KNOW that is going to earn me flames. XD
*Mutters something about those being the poorest excuses for programming languages since Basic* :P


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Rednaxela wrote:
Delusional Kangaroo wrote:
I personally like C#.NET and Java, though I KNOW that is going to earn me flames. XD
*Mutters something about those being the poorest excuses for programming languages since Basic* :P
Bah. If .NET is so horrible why does American Healthways (one of the largest healthcare companies in america) Use it as a standard? Why is microsoft dominating the market for enterprise level applications? :D


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Yea, I don't know C++ but I have looked over it, I'm still debating if I should learn it or not. I'm taking Java next year... Anyway, I find the best way to calm oneself down during an insanity attack is to introduce your head to the wall untill you temporarily forget who you are. Just make sure its not your wall or you might end up paying for repairs to mysterious holes in the wall.


SO THATS WHERE THEY'RE COMMING FROM!!!(it all makes sence now)

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And I don't see how C++ is such and "ugly hack," it's the same thing, except that it allows for classes and such. =P
It's adding such features to a language that wasn't designed with that in mind. It causes all sorts of messyness, hence the "ugly hack" part Razz


Then why don't you do everything in assembly or better yet mechine code?

hehe joy-gas-mic hehe


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Delusional Kangaroo wrote:
Rednaxela wrote:
Delusional Kangaroo wrote:
I personally like C#.NET and Java, though I KNOW that is going to earn me flames. XD
*Mutters something about those being the poorest excuses for programming languages since Basic* :P
Bah. If .NET is so horrible why does American Healthways (one of the largest healthcare companies in america) Use it as a standard? Why is microsoft dominating the market for enterprise level applications? :D
1) Because they like most ways went for MS, <sarcasm> and everyone knows tradition works best </sarcasm>
2) Because they trust marketing silly :P
2) Most (not all though) in-house 'enterprise level applications' are poorly written hacks anyways.

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Rednaxela wrote:
It's adding such features to a language that wasn't designed with that in mind. It causes all sorts of messyness, hence the "ugly hack" part Razz
Then why don't you do everything in assembly or better yet mechine code?
C is it's own language, designed for what it is designed for. C++ is extending a language in a way that wasn't intended, and in my experience can cause some ugly looking code. Nothing wrong with C :P
(and as a side note, assembly maps almost 1:1 to machine code so no real point in that :P)

Oh, and remember when I'm saying this, I'm meaning it in a light hearted manner ^^;


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Rednaxela wrote:
Oh, and remember when I'm saying this, I'm meaning it in a light hearted manner ^^;
I know. :P I like light heartedly e-beating each other up over OS preference! XD
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2) Most (not all though) in-house 'enterprise level applications' are poorly written hacks anyways.
I didn't mean in house. That's the demographic my dad told me. :P 'Course, he's been working in computer fields for around 20 years and still is working with computers, so I generally trust his technology assessments. XD

*Beats Red over the head with a cast-iron Windows XP box* :D


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Bah, stop complaining and goto D

Or better yet do everything in assembly, its actual quite fun once you learn it. *LIES!!! ALL OF IT, LIES!!*

Okay maybe its not so fun, but it is low enough level you can dodge around those annoying windows classes and stuff.

*Demonstrates as he makes windows do backfilps through rings of fire*


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