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 Post subject: Euchre, Raine, and the former Grand Templar......
PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:05 am 
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This has been bugging me for a while....

Firstly, when Karen was trying to track down Trace she caught the scent of someone who didn't smell like a human, this turns out to be Raine, who is searching for her mother and when Raine finds her it's revealed that Euchre and Raine's mother know each other. Raine's mother is none other than the former Grand Templar herself, who was cursed by Trace to take the form of a wolf Keidran. It explains why she and Euchre know one another, but something stuck out in this comic. Why would she refer to Euchre in that manner? One explanation is they were lovers. If so, then Raine could be Euchre's daughter!

But if that's true, then why would Euchre be helping Trace? It doesn't make sense! Unless..... He has an ulterior motive. But what could it be......

.................Of course! Of course! Is that what they're planning!? It all fits together!


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All I remember about Euchre is the comically massive crotch-fubes. Not sure who this Raine is any more, its been a long time since I've bothered with the archives.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:11 am 
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You know, it's pretty common to dear everybody even though they're not lovers, dear Schrodinger. They could've known each other from anywhere.

I don't know if we can even say if Trace's party is "good" or "bad", so we can't make such assumptions about Euchre either. He could be a saint helping wherever he can, or maybe the devil himself. I hear devil is good at disguises... :roll:


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:19 am 
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Raine could not be the former Grand Templar's and Euchre's child. Simply because you can not breed Humans with Keidrans. Though they could most certainly have been lovers while she was a Keidran. Or even back when she was still Human. But it is still impossible for Raine to be their child.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:33 am 
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Sithil wrote:
Or even back when she was still Human.

You seem to have shot a hole in your own theory. Raine looks to be in her late teens? Remember, Trace took over only four years ago.

I never said Raine was half-Keidran, but it has been proven a number of times that the smell does rub off. Maybe I was just a little unclear on that.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:40 am 
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Well, let's not forget that Euchre was also apparently human at one point in time in his life. He is a singular individual, who has appeared in the past of both Trace and Flora, as a Human and a Keidran respectively. Either there's something far more going on with him than meets the eye, or he's better than the Master Spy at disguise. ;)


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:55 am 
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avwolf wrote:
Well, let's not forget that Euchre was also apparently human at one point in time in his life. He is a singular individual, who has appeared in the past of both Trace and Flora, as a Human and a Keidran respectively. Either there's something far more going on with him than meets the eye, or he's better than the Master Spy at disguise. ;)
Aww... I was gonna bring that up. I fully support that Euchre and Raine's mother (does she actually have a name?) are, or were, lovers, and that Raine is their child. I'd like to see Raine in a bigger role in the story too.

Theory:
Keith, Nat, and Flora try to save Trace, but they get captured. They are about to be executed when they are saved by a father-daughter tag-team riding a magnificent dragon. They kick [censored]. Then they go visit the Western Basitin for shelter and food, and to procure a vessel on which to travel.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:57 am 
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:58 am 
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Schrodinger wrote:
Sithil wrote:
Or even back when she was still Human.

You seem to have shot a hole in your own theory. Raine looks to be in her late teens? Remember, Trace took over only four years ago.

I never said Raine was half-Keidran, but it has been proven a number of times that the smell does rub off. Maybe I was just a little unclear on that.


I most certainly did not. What I said was that the former Grand Templar and Euchre could even have been lovers back then she was still Human, but Raine could still not possibly be their child.

Though it seems avwolf decided to poke a real hole in my theory none the less. A small and only potential one though.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:05 pm 
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avwolf wrote:
Well, let's not forget that Euchre was also apparently human at one point in time in his life. He is a singular individual, who has appeared in the past of both Trace and Flora, as a Human and a Keidran respectively. Either there's something far more going on with him than meets the eye, or he's better than the Master Spy at disguise. ;)

Did we ever find out who Trace's "man on the island" was?


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Kinuki wrote:
avwolf wrote:
Well, let's not forget that Euchre was also apparently human at one point in time in his life. He is a singular individual, who has appeared in the past of both Trace and Flora, as a Human and a Keidran respectively. Either there's something far more going on with him than meets the eye, or he's better than the Master Spy at disguise. ;)

Did we ever find out who Trace's "man on the island" was?

No. It's still something of a mystery.

Maybe he just meant "Randal" and it's not "sinister in any way." :P


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Sithil wrote:
Raine could not be the former Grand Templar's and Euchre's child. Simply because you can not breed Humans with Keidrans. Though they could most certainly have been lovers while she was a Keidran. Or even back when she was still Human. But it is still impossible for Raine to be their child.


Because Euchre is probably Master Strategist, he could have a child with Misses Former Grand Templar (FGT), if they actually were lovers. Theoretically could FGT got Raine in their Keidran-form (Trace and Flora have a child too), but it wouldn't fit the timeline. Raine's Keidran smell could also originate from a meeting with either keidraniced FGT or Euchre. Leaves only the question, why Trace should make the lover of one of his enemies one of his Master Templar? Only to keidranice him for disobeying? Or because he was a big meanie (cue evil laughter)...


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EB from G wrote:
Sithil wrote:
Raine could not be the former Grand Templar's and Euchre's child. Simply because you can not breed Humans with Keidrans. Though they could most certainly have been lovers while she was a Keidran. Or even back when she was still Human. But it is still impossible for Raine to be their child.


Because Euchre is probably Master Strategist, he could have a child with Misses Former Grand Templar (FGT), if they actually were lovers. Theoretically could FGT got Raine in their Keidran-form (Trace and Flora have a child too), but it wouldn't fit the timeline. Raine's Keidran smell could also originate from a meeting with either keidraniced FGT or Euchre. Leaves only the question, why Trace should make the lover of one of his enemies one of his Master Templar? Only to keidranice him for disobeying? Or because he was a big meanie (cue evil laughter)...


I'll give you a worthy answer tomorrow. Ngh, headaaaaaache...


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Kinuki wrote:
avwolf wrote:
Well, let's not forget that Euchre was also apparently human at one point in time in his life. He is a singular individual, who has appeared in the past of both Trace and Flora, as a Human and a Keidran respectively. Either there's something far more going on with him than meets the eye, or he's better than the Master Spy at disguise. ;)

Did we ever find out who Trace's "man on the island" was?


Pretty sure it was Tom. XD


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