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 Post subject: Natani-curious?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:12 pm 
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Whoa...under the sweet new Charecter section (super sweet, in fact, if you haven't seen it yet, what are you waiting for? ) It says that Natani...is totally, officealy,...like, yeah, Bi-sexual.


as if Keith and Natani's relation was akward enough...now Natani is Bi...

Wow.

huh, i guess it opens up more possbilities for fan-service...yeah fan-service...i like fan-service...

*snaps out of it* ...anyway..

yeah, and what proof in the comic so far is there that hints at Natani being a switch hitter? besides....dressing as a man...and besides...tom said so...


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Tom sead above Natani's profile that there were spoilers in it.


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Chaos Fielder wrote:
and what proof in the comic so far is there that hints at Natani being a switch hitter?


Fabius Defessus wrote:
Tom sead above Natani's profile that there were spoilers in it.


I guess we'll find out won't we...


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 Post subject: Re: Natani-curious?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:54 pm 
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Chaos Fielder wrote:
and what proof in the comic so far is there that hints at Natani being a switch hitter?

What proof is there yet that she is even a hitter...:P

I think it's more that her situation is so confused that she's not sure what to be attracted to...she seems to shun all attention sexual in nature...


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Heh...so now a tidy little KeithxNatanixLaura trio becomes possible...rowr...
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 Post subject: Re: Natani-curious?
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B_Dog wrote:
Chaos Fielder wrote:
and what proof in the comic so far is there that hints at Natani being a switch hitter?

What proof is there yet that she is even a hitter...:P

I think it's more that her situation is so confused that she's not sure what to be attracted to...she seems to shun all attention sexual in nature...

Agreed. As we noted in the thread about the Character section, while it makes sense for Natani to be bi-sexual because she's had her personality somewhat overpowered by Zen's and she's convinced herself that she's male; she has to protect her secret absolutely. She can't even admit an attraction to anyone, no matter what their gender, because the only place that such an attraction can go is in the direction of revealed secrets. That's something she's unwilling to accept.


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 Post subject: Re: Natani-curious?
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avwolf wrote:
B_Dog wrote:
Chaos Fielder wrote:
and what proof in the comic so far is there that hints at Natani being a switch hitter?

What proof is there yet that she is even a hitter...:P

I think it's more that her situation is so confused that she's not sure what to be attracted to...she seems to shun all attention sexual in nature...

Agreed. As we noted in the thread about the Character section, while it makes sense for Natani to be bi-sexual because she's had her personality somewhat overpowered by Zen's and she's convinced herself that she's male; she has to protect her secret absolutely. She can't even admit an attraction to anyone, no matter what their gender, because the only place that such an attraction can go is in the direction of revealed secrets. That's something she's unwilling to accept.

Ahhh...the Rubik's cube that is Natani...she needs a therapist...


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avwolf wrote:
B_Dog wrote:
Chaos Fielder wrote:
and what proof in the comic so far is there that hints at Natani being a switch hitter?

What proof is there yet that she is even a hitter...:P

I think it's more that her situation is so confused that she's not sure what to be attracted to...she seems to shun all attention sexual in nature...

Agreed. As we noted in the thread about the Character section, while it makes sense for Natani to be bi-sexual because she's had her personality somewhat overpowered by Zen's and she's convinced herself that she's male; she has to protect her secret absolutely. She can't even admit an attraction to anyone, no matter what their gender, because the only place that such an attraction can go is in the direction of revealed secrets. That's something she's unwilling to accept.


Wouldn't that make her more a-sexual?


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I my opinion the reason for it stating that she is Bi-sexual is the fact that she convinced herself that she is male. Since she loves Keith that would make "him" gay, and being a male may have also convinced her to be attracted to females, as she belives that i what is right for here to do.


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 Post subject: Re: Natani-curious?
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Zovesta wrote:
avwolf wrote:
B_Dog wrote:
Chaos Fielder wrote:
and what proof in the comic so far is there that hints at Natani being a switch hitter?

What proof is there yet that she is even a hitter...:P

I think it's more that her situation is so confused that she's not sure what to be attracted to...she seems to shun all attention sexual in nature...

Agreed. As we noted in the thread about the Character section, while it makes sense for Natani to be bi-sexual because she's had her personality somewhat overpowered by Zen's and she's convinced herself that she's male; she has to protect her secret absolutely. She can't even admit an attraction to anyone, no matter what their gender, because the only place that such an attraction can go is in the direction of revealed secrets. That's something she's unwilling to accept.


Wouldn't that make her more a-sexual?

Yes and no. You might consider her asexual because, from a psychological standpoint, she refuses to get into romantic situations. Then again, it's not much of a stretch to then call Keith asexual, because he's so vehemently opposed the advances of everyone who has flirted with him (heck, he's even avoided lower arm exercises, so to speak). However, Natani's orientation is bi, because she's demonstrated that, although she resists it, she is attracted to people in a romantic or sexual way (notably the Keithster). We haven't seen her attracted to females, but it makes sense considering her psychological issues.

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I my opinion the reason for it stating that she is Bi-sexual is the fact that she convinced herself that she is male. Since she loves Keith that would make "him" gay, and being a male may have also convinced her to be attracted to females, as she belives that i what is right for here to do.

Apart from the end, where your sentence wanders off into "it's too early in the morning" land (mine do the same...I have a terrible time turning adjectives into adverbs after about 1:40 am), I think you've hit the nail on the head. Natani believes herself to be male, so to be attracted to Keith makes her, psychologically speaking, gay; an inversion of the norms. I'd love to see Nat struggle with being attracted to women too, just to illustrate her bisexuality (and feed the fandom ;)), but that's sort of off topic and diversionary for the comic, especially when Tom seems to be trying to pick up speed with the story.


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So if Laura and Natani run off together...

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Since she loves Keith that would make "him" gay, and being a male may have also convinced her to be attracted to females, as she belives that i what is right for here to do.


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Apart from the end, where your sentence wanders off into "it's too early in the morning" land (mine do the same...I have a terrible time turning adjectives into adverbs after about 1:40 am),


Nice one.


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Has Natani ever shown herself to be attracted to women? The closest I remember is intense blushing when Flora got... gropey, shall we say, when they were in that one village with the stuff in the air making them become lustful. So specific of me, I know. I have a bad memory, whaddya want?

Her bisexuality may be a side-effect of her transgenderism. She was, let's say, heterosexual and female before. But now that she believes she's male, she also believes she's attracted to women, in addition to her "baseline" sexuality.

Or maybe she just "is" bi. I have a feeling we're all over-analyzing this. :lol:

So we have a transgender, bisexual wolf and a probably-gay/bi Basitin.


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Has Natani ever shown herself to be attracted to women? The closest I remember is intense blushing when Flora got... gropey, shall we say, when they were in that one village with the stuff in the air making them become lustful. So specific of me, I know. I have a bad memory, whaddya want?

hahaha I forgot that Flora had her hands all over Natani. You're right, that's hard to place; it could be simple embarrassment and fear that her secret would get out. Apart from that, we haven't been around any other Keidran in any situation that Natani could get close to them in. I mean, other than Kat, maybe, but there's no evidence that she spent any time around Kat at all, apart from that moment where Kat barged in on Natani and Keith in the bath. And Natani x Laura won't work now because she knows Laura's Keith's ex-fiancee, and thus competition. If she'd just run into Laura on the street without Flora there to make the reveal, then things might have gotten confusing and weird (now that would be a love triangle, or perhaps, in the words of Star Wreck, a "wreck-tangle" ;)).

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I have a feeling we're all over-analyzing this. :lol:

Well...That is what we do. (Or at least what I do). :)

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So we have a transgender, bisexual wolf and a probably-gay/bi Basitin.

I still say that Keith's a closeted bi, too. It's the only way to explain how he freaks out every time Alaric touches him. :P


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I still say that Keith's a closeted bi, too. It's the only way to explain how he freaks out every time Alaric touches him. :P


or he could just be very homophobic
my friend freaks out like that if you even touch him or pretend to be gay around him. i'm not gay, but my friends and I like to pretend to be gay around him because he freaks out so much. that also makes him the target for some really funny pranks :wink:


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I still say that Keith's a closeted bi, too. It's the only way to explain how he freaks out every time Alaric touches him. :P


or he could just be very homophobic
my friend freaks out like that if you even touch him or pretend to be gay around him. i'm not gay, but my friends and I like to pretend to be gay around him because he freaks out so much. that also makes him the target for some really funny pranks :wink:

It's possible, but he doesn't really freak out in the way I'd expect were he homophobic. He doesn't make panicked excuses, he doesn't avoid these situations, he doesn't make angry accusations toward Alaric (heck, Keith's largely acted like this is exactly what he expects from Alaric). Keith freaks out, but it's just a momentary outburst before he's back in control. If he is a homophobe, he's one who's remarkably well adjusted to hanging out around gays.

Besides, Keith's not just freaking out -- he's getting embarrassed and flustered, like he's trying to deny that he likes it.

I guess I don't personally know anyone that's particularly homophobic anymore, so my expectations of such might be way off. This is just how I've been reading the situation. *shrug*


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